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The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Posted by IncanusFor group 0
Incanus
GM, 3 posts
Tue 13 Jun 2023
at 19:55
  • msg #1

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

This is the standard out of character discussion thread.
Incanus
GM, 9 posts
Thu 15 Jun 2023
at 21:23
  • msg #2

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Just as an aside, I didn't like the character sheet template I found on the site, way too complicated.  Just make sure the information that's important is on the sheet here:  Combat stats (DB, OBs, etc.) skill in which you have ranks with # of ranks and totals; Stats with base, adjustments, and total bonus; things gained from background options; and any gear.
Einar
Dorwinrim Warrior, 1 post
Thu 15 Jun 2023
at 21:41
  • msg #3

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Can we allocate Stats after we rolled the potentials?
Incanus
GM, 11 posts
Thu 15 Jun 2023
at 23:03
  • msg #4

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

To do that you need to record the die roll that determined that potential, so that if you replace the stat with 90 the new potential is determined based off the original die roll.
Einar
Dorwinrim Warrior, 2 posts
Fri 16 Jun 2023
at 05:11
  • msg #5

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Of course.
E.g. you roll 23 as temporary and 77 for its potential.
Thus the Pot would be 72.
Then you replace the Temp with 90... 90(77)...
I suggest to rather use the raw Pot Roll, the 77, and apply it to 90 in the table to get 90(90).
Unless one were to generate a high Pot on a low Temp and suddenly decide to start with e.g. a Ranger with CO 58(95) and thus keep the 23(72), the lowest Temp roll of your 6 rolls, for another Stat.
Einar
Dorwinrim Warrior, 3 posts
Sat 17 Jun 2023
at 08:51
  • [deleted]
  • msg #6

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

This message was deleted by the player at 08:58, Sat 17 June 2023.
Einar
Dorwinrim Warrior, 4 posts
Chain (25s), M&M-5
Hits27, Perception+0
Sat 17 Jun 2023
at 15:50
  • msg #7

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Right.
Am finished. I think I have meted out any mistakes or misunderstandings.
Comparing my character with those provided as potential PCs in MERP2 I am quite daunted to see Level 2.
Race/Culture has such a huge effect in MERP, it's a bit distressing to play a mere man :D
Incanus
GM, 12 posts
Sat 17 Jun 2023
at 19:28
  • msg #8

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

MM also get a -5 for having leg greaves.  Worth it, just saying.
Einar
Dorwinrim Warrior, 5 posts
Chain (25s), M&M-5
Hits27, Perception+0
Sat 17 Jun 2023
at 19:54
  • msg #9

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 8):

Yeah, I lack the cash for those, though... guess, I ought to keep that silver for now... ah.. 2sp for leather... hmm... thanks for the pointer
Finlos
Noldo Warrior, 2 posts
Sun 18 Jun 2023
at 21:45
  • msg #10

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Progress has started on my character but I'm traveling over the next day.

Soon I will have access to a printer again to be able to print out individual pages for easier access which will make progress much faster.
Incanus
GM, 13 posts
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 18:08
  • msg #11

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

If anyone needs anything from the book let me know.  I'd rather help than risk someone finding a source not exactly the same as we are using.

We need to decide where we want to begin, and how you all know each other.  I have some notions but appreciate input.

We have:

 a Dorwinrim Man now a subject of King Bard in Dale, born and raised in Esgaroth.
 a young Noldor elf, most likely born and raised in Imladris.
 a young Silvan ranger, could be from any of the elvin realms (Woodland Realm, Lindon, Imladris or Lorien)
 a half-elf ranger; if the elf parent is Noldor or Sindar, then most likely from Imladris; if Silvan, could be from any of the above mentioned realms.
 and likely a Hobbit Scout, either from Bree, the East Farthing or Buckland.
Einar
Dorwinrim Warrior, 7 posts
Chain (25s), M&M-5
Hits27, Perception+0
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 18:18
  • msg #12

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Perhaps it helps if we decide where we end up, i.e where the campaign starts?

Also, I found
MERP, 2nd U.S. Edition, 1993, Collector's Edition, Stock #2000, ISBN 155806-190-8
This message was last edited by the player at 18:37, Mon 19 June 2023.
Incanus
GM, 14 posts
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 18:40
  • msg #13

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Einar:
MERP, 2nd U.S. Edition, 1993, Collector's Edition, Stock #2000, ISBN 155806-190-8


That is the same as mine, yep.

At this point was thinking we would start in the Eaves of Mirkwood, just haven't decided on the East or West side.  Character connections could help with that, as there is no reason for a Hobbit to be that far East unless traveling with companions.

For example, perhaps a ranger out of Imladris is friends with a Hobbit out of Bree; they have a mutual friend who is Noldor also from Imladris, and perhaps they went to the Woodland realm to take a message or something from Elrond to Thranduil, there they met a Dorwinrim man who was part of a trade delegation from dale to the Woodland Kingdom.
This message was last edited by the GM at 18:43, Mon 19 June 2023.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 1 post
Mon 19 Jun 2023
at 20:59
  • msg #14

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

The door of the Green Dragon Inn opens, but nobody is seen walking in... "Excuse me, excuse me.  Barman, a pint of ale, please." can be heard.  The pint of ale is lifted from the bar and following its trajectory downwards, a hobbit is revealed.  He comes and join the others at the table.

Hi everyone!
Einar
Dorwinrim Warrior, 8 posts
Chain (25s), M&M-5
Hits27, Perception+0
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 04:31
  • msg #15

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 13):

Sounds nice.
Just cannot yet come up with a good explanation why a mere young soldier would represent Dale in Thranduil's court.
How about Einar being part of a Dalish delegation that was ambushed and he was the only one left for dead and the Elves found and saved him.
That would allow me a specific Motivation to start with, i.e. learn who/what ambushed the delegation and for what reasons. Maybe even some sort of revenge thing. Not sure about the latter. Alternatively it was the group (or part of it) who found him.

Like you said, being east of the grey mountains might be the challenge for our hobbit's background.
I suppose I could change my culture to hail from further west, too, but mere skimming over those culture pages has not yet inspired an idea. A Dwarf maybe, but with so many Elves...
This message was last edited by the player at 04:33, Tue 20 June 2023.
Incanus
GM, 15 posts
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 12:30
  • msg #16

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I didn’t say he was the only person in the delegation, just part of one.  He could be there to learn from the older men leading it, or as a guard.
Berenar
Silvan Ranger, 2 posts
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 12:45
  • msg #17

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Haven't decided my point of origin yet, but it'll either be Lothlorien or Mithlond. Does one work better for connections?
Incanus
GM, 16 posts
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 13:18
  • msg #18

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

For eaves of Mirkwood the Woodland Realm of Thranduil works best.  Depends on other possible connections, of course.
Finlos
Noldo Warrior, 3 posts
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 15:18
  • msg #19

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Imladris makes the most sense for my origin.  The offer of adventure is really all you need to get me somewhere else.
Einar
Dorwinrim Warrior, 9 posts
Chain (25s), M&M-5
Hits27, Perception+0
Tue 20 Jun 2023
at 17:20
  • msg #20

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

If you don't mind I would switch culture to Rohirrim.

Background will be adjusted accordingly but will take some time as I need to familiarize myself more with history of Rohan
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 2 posts
Wed 21 Jun 2023
at 11:31
  • msg #21

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

For ties in: I think I'll make Bosco being from Straddle / Bree area.  That way he is already a bit further East and out of the deep Shire, more likely to get in contact with tall folks.  I'll add some reasons in his background on why he is a weird hobbit (i.e. one that is willing to go further afield than the second field across the hill) so that he can be as far as needed.

If one of you had a reason to come through Bree on the last year or so, Bosco could have met you and we could have been travelling together for a few months but I don't think it is necessary. Imladris would not be too far from Bree for him to have travelled there alone.  Dale would be quite a trek.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:46, Wed 21 June 2023.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 1 post
Wed 21 Jun 2023
at 12:04
  • msg #22

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly is a ranger, half elven, who has a familial interest in seeking out herbs.
Her home was a farm a little ways out from Bree.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 10 posts
Chain (25s), M&M+5
Hits41, Perception+5
Wed 21 Jun 2023
at 20:04
  • msg #23

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Einar (msg # 20):

Update should be complete now
Incanus
GM, 17 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 24 Jun 2023
at 16:37
  • msg #24

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Lady time I reviewed the character sheets only one was done.  For the rest of you, do you need something from me to proceed?  Did I miss a question or such?  Are you still with us?
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 4 posts
Sat 24 Jun 2023
at 23:47
  • msg #25

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

@Incanus: yes still here. Needed to refresh my MERP knowledge.  I'll try to get it done tomorrow.  If I understand, we just write it down the key information in the Character Details but we are not using a specific template.

@All: If it's of any use, someone has made a Google Doc MERP sheet that seems to be working for me.  I am using it to build the character while double checking with the rule book and plan to manually convert to text for here.
If you are interested, see:
https://www.reddit.com/r/ICERP...or_on_google_sheets/
or
https://ironcrown.co.uk/ICEfor...ex.php?topic=19848.0
This message was last edited by the player at 23:55, Sat 24 June 2023.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 5 posts
Sat 24 Jun 2023
at 23:50
  • msg #26

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly Shae:
Elly is a ranger, half elven, who has a familial interest in seeking out herbs.
Her home was a farm a little ways out from Bree.


That's great.  Bosco is from Staddle.  Now that he has reached adulthood, he decided that farming and growing herbs was not quite enough for him and he want to travel East.

We could have met and travelled together for a while, depending where the game starts.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 11 posts
Chain (25s), M&M+0
Hits41, Perception+5
Sun 25 Jun 2023
at 09:02
  • msg #27

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Bosco Hedgehopper (msg # 25):

Does not seem to work on mobile phone for me.
Anyway, I just use Excel and Code it for RPol tables and dice roller config to allow me to do it quickly from the mobile.
And this simple 'tool' does not track DP expenditure over the levels.

RM would be a different story, of course :D.


Example Combat Data
Melee WeaponSkillPrim
Crit
Sec
Crit
Attack
Table
OBNotes
SpearPolearmPunctureSlash (A)AT-1+33attack from 2nd rank, may be used 2-handed
Spear, 2-HandedPolearmPunctureSlash (A)AT-3+43attack from 2nd rank, may be used 2-handed
Broadsword1-H EdgedSlashnoneAT-1+48 
Missile WeaponSkillPrim
Crit
Sec
Crit
Attack
Table
OBNotes
Spear, thrownThrownPunctureSlash (A)AT-4short (20)-2
medium (40)-27
long (60)-52
maximum (80)-77
none


ArmourChain
Helmet
-5 Perception
Metal
Arm Greaves
-5 OB
Leather
Leg Greaves
-5 M&M
Leather
Shieldyes

Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 6 posts
Mon 26 Jun 2023
at 23:31
  • msg #28

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I love your dice roll links.  I'll be creating myself some.  In fact I might go OCD and create links for all my skills.
Incanus
GM, 18 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 1 Jul 2023
at 20:21
  • msg #29

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Folks, Einar is done with character creation; Bosco is almost there; how is everyone else going?

Who is still interested in proceeding with this game?
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 2 posts
Sat 1 Jul 2023
at 20:32
  • msg #30

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Still interested here!
Incanus
GM, 19 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 1 Jul 2023
at 20:35
  • msg #31

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Elly Shae (msg # 30):

I aplogize, you are almost done also.  Please finalize the details (whether or not wearing greaves, etc.), total up the bonuses and clean up the character sheet.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 3 posts
Sat 1 Jul 2023
at 20:36
  • msg #32

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

All good, thank you, I will
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 7 posts
Sat 1 Jul 2023
at 21:22
  • msg #33

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Any advice/opinion on the importance of Movement & Maneuver?  I got:
No armor: 30
Rigid leather: 0
If I add leg greaves, the drops to -5.

Is it worth the negative Movement & Maneuver to have some protection against leg criticals?
Or alternatively, it the +30 MM valuable enough to not wear armor and be at greater risk of criticals?

My current plan is probably to wear rigid leather most of the time if travelling or in potentially dangerous situation but maybe take it off if I am on a sneak mission.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:24, Sat 01 July 2023.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 12 posts
Chain (25s), M&M+0
Hits41, Perception+5
Sat 1 Jul 2023
at 22:01
  • msg #34

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

The only bonus I have is Strength so I cannot give good advice. I can fight and there's that for 1st Level.
With group as is I don't expect you to be in the thick of melee battle, so if I were you I'd start out with Soft Leather as that gets your Agility bonus, so at even a single rank you surely have a positive MM.
...
Hang on, my sheet is wrong, Rigid Leather is Agility!
Forget all I said:D
Berenar
Silvan Ranger, 3 posts
Sun 2 Jul 2023
at 22:15
  • msg #35

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I am still very much interested, but have to confess I need to get my character sheet done (about a week ago)!
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 4 posts
Sun 2 Jul 2023
at 22:35
  • msg #36

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 31):

Done but Base Spell bonus line needs amending and then the (newly added) encumberance/equipment aection needs tidying up.
I plan to do that tomorrow evening
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 13 posts
Chain (25s), M&M+0
Hits41, Perception+5
Mon 3 Jul 2023
at 08:53
  • msg #37

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Seeing the plate armor on Elly I'm very envious for not having seen a way to accomplish that :D.
MM must be -10 or better to be allowed to get one... ahh, unless one has money enough to purchase a plate anyway :D
Awesome.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 8 posts
Tue 4 Jul 2023
at 13:41
  • msg #38

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Einar (msg # 37):

I guess one could also use a background option special item.  A plate armour is probably important enough for that.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 5 posts
Tue 4 Jul 2023
at 14:40
  • msg #39

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Can one buy ranks in Base Spell OB ?
If yes and one has zero ranks thenb is there a -25 mondifier for Base Spell OB ?
Incanus
GM, 20 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 4 Jul 2023
at 15:34
  • msg #40

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

You cannot buy ranks in Base Spell and there is no -25.  There are no modifiers to that except if the class gives a per level bonus (Mage gives +2 per level, for example), and if you have a special ability that gives bonuses that include it (Lightning Reactions gives a +5 to DB and OB); and then for the time spent casting the spell.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 6 posts
Tue 4 Jul 2023
at 16:11
  • msg #41

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

TY!
Char sheet tidied up. Just need to work out and add movement
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 7 posts
Tue 4 Jul 2023
at 23:15
  • msg #42

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

All done
Incanus
GM, 21 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 6 Jul 2023
at 22:13
  • msg #43

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I have not seen any changes to Berenar or Finlos' sheets.  Are you guys still with us?
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 14 posts
Chain (25s), M&M+0
Hits41, Perception+5
Wed 12 Jul 2023
at 11:17
  • msg #44

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 43):

Both have not logged on since that post of yours.
Three PCs might be too few?
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 9 posts
Wed 12 Jul 2023
at 11:34
  • msg #45

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Still here
Incanus
GM, 22 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 12 Jul 2023
at 16:02
  • msg #46

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Three is not too few, I can adjust some things, and you guys are pretty decent at fighting for first level characters.

I’ll see about starting the game thread soon.
Incanus
GM, 23 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 12 Jul 2023
at 21:49
  • msg #47

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

If I advertise for more player it will delay the game start.  I think we can start with three, but what do you guys want?

If I ask for more I will specify no doubling up on what we have, in terms of race/profession combinations.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 10 posts
Wed 12 Jul 2023
at 21:53
  • msg #48

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Just start
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 9 posts
Wed 12 Jul 2023
at 23:08
  • msg #49

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)


Happy to start too.
Incanus
GM, 24 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 12 Jul 2023
at 23:23
  • msg #50

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Okay, we will start.  As we go let me know if you want to recruit more; in fact, you are welcome to reach out to people you know who may be interested.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 15 posts
Chain (25s), M&M+0
Hits41, Perception+5
Thu 13 Jul 2023
at 08:45
  • msg #51

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Let's start with the three of us and advertise anyway.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 11 posts
Thu 13 Jul 2023
at 09:07
  • msg #52

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Folks can join in as "someone you meet on the road/inn/tavern/needing help.."
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 16 posts
Chain (25s), M&M+0
Hits41, Perception+5
Sun 16 Jul 2023
at 08:54
  • msg #53

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Luckily there are wikis to help one understand the flow of time in Middle-Earth.
That Tharbad does in fact no longer exist at the time of this story is something I always have to be actively reminded of :D
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 10 posts
Mon 17 Jul 2023
at 15:53
  • msg #54

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)


Thanks Incanus for starting and running this game.

I spent the weekend moving house so sorry for my silence.  Was quite exhausting.  I'll post post IC tonight.
Incanus
GM, 26 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 17 Jul 2023
at 21:47
  • msg #55

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Almost everything from Bree South to the Gap of Rohan is very sparsely populated, and between Bree and the Greyflood basically abandoned and returning to wilderness.  In many ways Middle-Earth at the end of the Third Age is a post-apocalypse world.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 18 posts
Chain (25s), M&M+0
Hits41, Perception+5
Tue 18 Jul 2023
at 10:34
  • msg #56

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

My understanding was that Elly/Bosco are actually on the other side of the ford than Einar.
Also that the river/ford is at least 100 yards wide
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 14 posts
Tue 18 Jul 2023
at 10:53
  • msg #57

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Ah ok. Well we can just deltee it if the GM says that is so.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 19 posts
Chain (25s), M&M+0
Hits41, Perception+5
Tue 18 Jul 2023
at 11:01
  • msg #58

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Right now you have me more puzzled about your reference to a 'trio'... Einar is alone...
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 15 posts
Tue 18 Jul 2023
at 12:21
  • msg #59

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Einar (msg # 58):

I'd missed that the pair Einar set out with are no longer about.
Ok, I've edited the post, IC msg #3, accordingly and removed the assumption of being on the same side of the water.
Incanus
GM, 28 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 18 Jul 2023
at 15:15
  • msg #60

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

My aplogies, I posted int he worng thread.  Moving the text of the deleted posts from the game thread to here:

Yes, you guys are on opposite sides of the ford.  In the early Spring the ford is quite dangerous, Boromir will lose a horse crossing this ford in a few decades.  But the waters have now receded to a more normal level, making it challenging but not deadly.

quote:
In reply to Incanus (msg # 6):
TY for clarifying. So which of us needs to cross ?


That remains for you guys to decide.  Einar's missing companions, if still alive, are likely on his side of the river.  Goblins don't like water and are unlikely to cross it.  You can call across the river and discuss.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 17 posts
Tue 18 Jul 2023
at 15:27
  • msg #61

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

TY! Rather than double post I've updated my last IC post .
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 18 posts
Tue 18 Jul 2023
at 17:33
  • msg #62

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Do we know width (and maybe depth) of this ford?
Are there trees nearby?
Incanus
GM, 29 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 18 Jul 2023
at 22:28
  • msg #63

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

You can see it, there are many large stones and rocks since there used to be stone bridge here that collapsed.  I don't have feet or meters in mind, but it would be done as one or more moving maneuvers.  Essentially, the more care you take the easier each step will be, but the more of them there are.  Three or so moderate maneuvers, one really hard one, that sort of thing.  You guys can get creative with your crossing plan.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 2 posts
Wed 19 Jul 2023
at 07:22
  • msg #64

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hey folks! Pleased to join everyone in the campaign, Kharrum is a Dwarf ranger/messenger
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 21 posts
Chain (25s), M&M+0
Hits41, Perception+5
Wed 19 Jul 2023
at 07:57
  • msg #65

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Welcome
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 20 posts
Wed 19 Jul 2023
at 08:07
  • msg #66

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hey Kharrum!
Welcome indeed
:)
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 22 posts
Chain (25s), M&M+0
Hits41, Perception+5
Wed 19 Jul 2023
at 08:23
  • msg #67

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

That companion's horse... is it still alive or was it a corpse?
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 12 posts
Wed 19 Jul 2023
at 09:53
  • msg #68

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Welcome fellow short person!
Incanus
GM, 30 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 19 Jul 2023
at 20:53
  • msg #69

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Einar (msg # 67):

Still alive
Incanus
GM, 31 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 20 Jul 2023
at 00:55
  • msg #70

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Remember, you can take some creative liberties in this scene.  The river is deep in the middle, it was navigable past Tharbad going North, but the remains of the bridge and other large stones now make that impractical, and make crossing easier.

Once you decide narratively what you plan to do we can work out how many MM rolls and what difficulty you need to make.
Bregbor
Silvan Animist, 1 post
Thu 20 Jul 2023
at 21:06
  • msg #71

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

MERP. Makes me feel like 14 again. Fun! Fun! Fuuuuuun!
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 23 posts
Thu 20 Jul 2023
at 21:16
  • msg #72

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Have edited in a bit more to "Meetings at the Ford (IC), msg #10".
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 1 post
Thu 20 Jul 2023
at 21:23
  • msg #73

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Bregbor:
MERP. Makes me feel like 14 again. Fun! Fun! Fuuuuuun!

I was a little older, but I understand you...

I will be laying Berthold, a young Rohirrim warrior
Ayleth Partino
player, 1 post
Fri 21 Jul 2023
at 15:26
  • msg #74

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hello all, I've run i to some power issues, but I'll be a cleric whenever I manage to get things finalized.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 24 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 21 Jul 2023
at 15:33
  • msg #75

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hey Ayleth!
Hope to see you soon
:)
Incanus
GM, 32 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 22 Jul 2023
at 14:59
  • msg #76

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Folks, because of the rapid influx of new characters (and welcome all!) and my resistance to multiple IC threads, we're getting a bit muddled up.  Bosco, Elly and Kharrum are on the Western side of the river, with a need to get across.

Einar, Berthold, Bregbor, Ayleth and Otric are all somewhere on the Eastern side of the river, though at the moment each of them is alone and out of sight of any others.

Berthold, when they are united and set out in search of Einar's friends they will find you and you can join them.  In the meantime, I will say that Bregbor and you will run into each other, you are slightly north of the ruined bridge, inland East of the river.

Ayleth and Ostric set out together from Dol Amroth and will come upon the ford at the ruined bridge from the Southeast as soon as they are both ready.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 25 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 22 Jul 2023
at 16:47
  • msg #77

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

It's probably posted somewhere and I'm just being dumb but I'm not sure when we are.
Presumably after Arnor split into the three realms? Has Weathertop fallen?
Incanus
GM, 33 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 22 Jul 2023
at 16:51
  • msg #78

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

From the Game Info link:

"The campaign will be set in the Third Age, soon after the Battle of the Five Armies, in 2948 TA, 1348 in the Shire Reckoning."
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 26 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 22 Jul 2023
at 16:55
  • msg #79

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

TY!
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 5 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Sun 23 Jul 2023
at 10:47
  • msg #80

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Doh, Kharrum would have shared his name for sure!
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 29 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sun 23 Jul 2023
at 10:52
  • msg #81

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Kharrum Stonesinger (msg # 80):

(You said 'introductions made' so I presumed that was the case.)

  :)
Bregbor
Silvan Animist, 6 posts
NA (30), 23/23 Hits
Sun 23 Jul 2023
at 17:02
  • msg #82

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

can my next post lead them to the others or is there a chance we get to shoot some game before?
Incanus
GM, 34 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sun 23 Jul 2023
at 17:27
  • msg #83

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

My preference is that those crossing et across, they meet the pair coming from Dol Amroth, agree with Einar on how to proceed, and then run into Berthold and Bregbor.  This is because finding Berthold is one of Einar's goals for the immediate future, running into you guys should not be anti-climactic.
Bregbor
Silvan Animist, 7 posts
NA (30), 23/23 Hits
Sun 23 Jul 2023
at 19:18
  • msg #84

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Can we get something to hunt for the mean-time: deer, boar,...

Testing the fighting system with an easy fight might be a good idea to show how the mechanics work.
Incanus
GM, 35 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sun 23 Jul 2023
at 19:34
  • msg #85

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

For that I would prefer to move you to separate thread.  Combat takes time and clutter things up.  Will a doe suffice?
Bregbor
Silvan Animist, 8 posts
NA (30), 23/23 Hits
Sun 23 Jul 2023
at 19:55
  • msg #86

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 85):

Yeah!
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 32 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sun 23 Jul 2023
at 22:51
  • msg #87

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

How wide is the ford?
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 15 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Sun 23 Jul 2023
at 23:43
  • msg #88

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)


Sorry about my relative quietness.  I've been moving home and combined with work, this has taken all my time.
Otric
Beorning Warrior, 1 post
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 24 Jul 2023
at 03:31
  • msg #89

The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hi All, looking forward to joining you.

Don't suppose anyone can shoot me a link to a character sheet?
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 9 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Mon 24 Jul 2023
at 04:11
  • msg #90

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Otric:
Don't suppose anyone can shoot me a link to a character sheet?

link to a message in another game
Otric
Beorning Warrior, 2 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 24 Jul 2023
at 05:17
  • msg #91

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Kharrum Stonesinger:
Otric:
Don't suppose anyone can shoot me a link to a character sheet?

link to a message in another game


Thanks
Ayleth Partino
Gondorian Animist, 3 posts
SL (00), 29/29 Hits
Mon 24 Jul 2023
at 05:28
  • msg #92

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Sheet doesn't have a section for spell lists.Tragic. But on the flop side, I have finally finished character creation!
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 26 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Mon 24 Jul 2023
at 07:59
  • msg #93

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Re: "Initiative"
Note that I have included my M&M in the Bio line.
Thus will, imho, greatly improve overview of who acts when.
I advise everyone to include it too.
My 50 pence
This message was lightly edited by the player at 07:59, Mon 24 July 2023.
Bregbor
Silvan Animist, 10 posts
NA (30), 23/23 Hits
Mon 24 Jul 2023
at 13:39
  • msg #94

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

quote:
not liking the idea of having to throw away good meat


All flesh must be eaten!
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 8 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Mon 24 Jul 2023
at 14:01
  • msg #95

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Bregbor:
quote:
not liking the idea of having to throw away good meat


All flesh must be eaten!

I thought we were playing MERP ;)

(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Flesh_Must_Be_Eaten)
This message was last edited by the player at 14:03, Mon 24 July 2023.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 11 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Mon 24 Jul 2023
at 21:06
  • msg #96

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Not sure if you're looking for any rolls for the rope tossing, GM?
Incanus
GM, 37 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 24 Jul 2023
at 21:14
  • msg #97

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I don't want the river crossing to be deadly, what I'm looking for a series of MM rolls so we get a sense of the system.  Everyone going across roll once, based on the results we'll determine if more are needed.

Also, please don't look up and interpret your own results.  I'm factoring in modifiers and difficulty and so will interpret the results myself.
Incanus
GM, 38 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 24 Jul 2023
at 21:18
  • msg #98

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

For combat purposes, post your declared actions with an appropriate roll when you are able and I will then work it out in initiative order.  It is somewhat helpful to have the MM bonus in the bio, but I'm not requiring it.  If you look at my bio you'll see what I want.
Incanus
GM, 41 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 24 Jul 2023
at 23:27
  • msg #99

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Kharrum it is an open-ended roll, so roll another d100 and add it in.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 14 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Mon 24 Jul 2023
at 23:37
  • msg #100

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Rolled and adding; I thought an unmodifer 100 was special :)
Bregbor
Silvan Animist, 14 posts
NA (30), 23/23 Hits
Tue 25 Jul 2023
at 12:20
  • msg #101

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I posted this ic first, sorry, moved it.

quote:
You usually get xp if the end result of a M&M is >100.

Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 28 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Wed 26 Jul 2023
at 05:17
  • msg #102

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

The M&M from Armor always applies to any and all Moving Maneuvres.
Any Skill bonus comes on top of that.
If you remove greaves they become dead weight (as opposed to being worn) and Encumbrance might apply and modify the roll.

Whether Acrobatics applies to horizontal Jumping/Leaping is a different story altogether. That's for GM to decide.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 16 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Wed 26 Jul 2023
at 19:36
  • msg #103

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Aye, this is why Kharrum stripped down; his Rigid Leather MM is pretty sucky
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 18 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Wed 26 Jul 2023
at 22:38
  • msg #104

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Einar:
The M&M from Armor always applies to any and all Moving Maneuvres.
Any Skill bonus comes on top of that.


Suppose:
- No armor MM = 30
- Rigid leather MM = 5
- Climbing skill = 40

If I want to climb a wall, is my bonus 40 or is it 40+30=70 if I remove my armor and 40+5=45 if I wear rigid leather?
Incanus
GM, 44 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 26 Jul 2023
at 23:57
  • msg #105

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

On page 32 in the description of the Moving and Maneuver skills it says "This bonus is not used if another skill specifically applies to the activity."  So no, it does not add to climbing, or swimming.  The negative modifier applies to all moving maneuvers, however, not just to the Moving and Maneuver skill group (which was called "Maneuvering in Armor" in an earlier edition I believe.)

I recognize that the section on Moving Maneuvers, P. 48., implies that the bonuses are additive.  But I will go with the clear statement from the skill description.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 29 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Thu 27 Jul 2023
at 04:42
  • msg #106

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 105):

Thanks for clarification, had not checked p 32
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 19 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Thu 27 Jul 2023
at 12:57
  • msg #107

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus:
On page 32 in the description of the Moving and Maneuver skills it says "This bonus is not used if another skill specifically applies to the activity."  So no, it does not add to climbing, or swimming.  The negative modifier applies to all moving maneuvers, however, not just to the Moving and Maneuver skill group (which was called "Maneuvering in Armor" in an earlier edition I believe.)

I recognize that the section on Moving Maneuvers, P. 48., implies that the bonuses are additive.  But I will go with the clear statement from the skill description.


Re: "The negative modifier applies to all moving maneuvers"

Is this the final M&M Skill bonus applies as a penalty if negative (by opposition to the default armor penalty)

E.g.
 1 Skill ranks *5 + 20 Agility Bonus - 30 (Rigid Leather) = -5 Total Character Bonus M&M in Rigid Leather
Climb Skill = 40

So a climb check would be have a total Skill Bonus of 40-5(Total M&M in Rigid Leather)=35
Rather than the base armor penalty always applying: 40-30(Rigid Leather base penalty)=10
Incanus
GM, 45 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 27 Jul 2023
at 22:14
  • msg #108

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Sorry, I meant that the negative modifier for wearing greaves applies to all MM skills, not just the armor skills.

If a skill applies to a situation that involves a MM (climbing, stalking, etc.) then only that skill bonus is used, but as they are moving maneuvers the greaves -5 penalty applies.

Any moving maneuver that does not have a specific skill (jumping from stone to stone across the river) uses the armor MM skill.
Incanus
GM, 46 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 27 Jul 2023
at 22:17
  • msg #109

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

With the rolls currently in the IC thread both Bosco and Elly will make it across.  All the rolls you included so far were necessary to make it.
Incanus
GM, 47 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 02:04
  • msg #110

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yes, you two coming from Dol Amroth are o  Einar’s side of the river.  At this point, everyone is.
Ayleth Partino
Gondorian Animist, 5 posts
SL (00), 29/29 Hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 02:10
  • msg #111

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Are we free to bump into the rest of them then? Is there a way you want to introduce us or should we just walk up on them?
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 30 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 05:00
  • msg #112

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 108):

Huh? Really?
So Bosco could wear Plate and just climb with +40?
Or Swim without penalty (except maybe adjusting difficulty)
Or Stalk...
This message was last edited by the player at 05:02, Fri 28 July 2023.
Bregbor
Silvan Animist, 15 posts
NA (30), 23/23 Hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 05:13
  • msg #113

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

It's a game. Embrace the absurd!
Incanus
GM, 48 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 15:01
  • msg #114

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Right, GM sets the difficulty.  You want to climb in plate mail with your +40 skill? Okay, let’s use the Absurd or Sheer Folly column of the chart, shall we?

That’s a semi flop example, not sure which difficulty I would use yet.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 37 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 15:03
  • msg #115

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

BuOnce you have decalred the difficulty, we can then decide whether to proceed, correct?
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 32 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 20:54
  • msg #116

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Do note that I only went with GM's intro. I am not aware what my injury actually is ;)
Incanus
GM, 49 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 21:09
  • msg #117

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

"'Tis but a scratch" as they say, I'm not mean enough to actually hurt you before play starts without the option of defending yourself.

Yes, you can cancel a declared action, there are penalties to any other action undertaken in its place in the same round, but it is definitely possible.

Will advance for the hunters now, was caught up with work and getting the new characters made.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 39 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 21:15
  • msg #118

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Let's play out the injury, please, it's in posts and Elly is headed towards fixing it. (One more round of posts would sort this)
Ayleth Partino
Gondorian Animist, 6 posts
SL (00), 29/29 Hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 21:20
  • msg #119

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Did someone say they need a healer?
Incanus
GM, 51 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 21:24
  • msg #120

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Oh, by all means play it out; I'm just not going to take away hit or give Einar a critical or anything.

Next on the list of "random" meetings would be Ayleth and Otric, coming up to the ford from the Southeast.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 33 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 21:27
  • msg #121

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hehe, how about giving the healer XPs though ;)
Bregbor
Silvan Animist, 16 posts
NA (30), 23/23 Hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 21:54
  • msg #122

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

How come the shot is without damage?

83 roll + 50 missile OB -25 DB is 108, isn't it?
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 40 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 21:58
  • msg #123

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Einar (msg # 121):

I was headed for continuity of the scene, the RP, not chasing xp. It also serves to organically share knowledge of Elly's capability.
Incanus
GM, 52 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 21:58
  • msg #124

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Bregbor (msg # 122):

Ah, this is why tagging and annotating is important.  I assumed the 83 was after adding your OB.  Well, it's not like it has real effect in the game.  Next time.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 17 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Fri 28 Jul 2023
at 23:06
  • msg #125

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Apologies, may not have a chance to post until Sunday but will try
Bregbor
Silvan Animist, 17 posts
NA (30), 23/23 Hits
Sat 29 Jul 2023
at 06:58
  • msg #126

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I'm going to be travelling till mid-August. I may post less.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 34 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Sat 29 Jul 2023
at 07:36
  • msg #127

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Elly Shae (msg # 123):

Sorry, I did not mean to imply that you were.

Vacation: 07th Aug-13tg Aug (without i-net access)
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 41 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 29 Jul 2023
at 07:37
  • msg #128

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Einar (msg # 127):

We're good.  :)

Have a lovely holiday on 7th!
Incanus
GM, 53 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 29 Jul 2023
at 14:20
  • msg #129

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Here we have another interesting change to Tolkien's Legendarium brought about by the Peter Jackson movies.  In Tolkien's works it was never explicitly stated that elves had pointed ears, no refernce in The Hobbit, LotR or Silmarillian.

However, in two places in his notes it is implied or stated that "the Quendian ears were more pointed and leaf-shaped than Human."

Similarly, "answering to a question on Hobbit ears, Tolkien wrote that these were 'only slightly pointed and 'elvish''. Some readers take this to mean that Elvish ears were pointed, while others argue that it is an ambiguous statement."

So let's stick with slightly more tapered  and leaf-shaped than human ears.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 42 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 29 Jul 2023
at 17:58
  • msg #130

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 129):

I so did not know that. TY!
Incanus
GM, 54 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 29 Jul 2023
at 19:16
  • msg #131

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Casting a spell, like anything you do in this game, requires a roll.  I say that because reading the rules you get the sense that there are almost no "automatic" actions where the players can assume success.

Non-attack spells are resolved using Base Spell Attack Table.  Since I presume he is not resisting the spell we could dispense with the RR roll.  The Base Spell roll is a 1d100, add the Base Spells bonus, any bonus for time spent preparing (up to +20 for 4 rounds), +30 for touching the target, with  special results if the Unmodified die comes up 97-100, or at the lower end 01-16 (because Einar is wearing Chain).  The lower end roll (01-16 unmodified) is a spell failure.

The results from the Base Spells table gives a modifier to the target to resist the spell.

Surface Ways is Open Channeling, not Open Essence.

There is also the Risk Factor of casting magic along with potential corruption.  Healing spells have no risk of corruption, however.  Based on the spell (RF5) and the era in which we are playing (Late Third Age 15) the risk factor for casting the spell is 20.  I will roll 1d100 +20 and depending on the result, there could be consequences.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 36 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Sat 29 Jul 2023
at 19:54
  • msg #132

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Wasn't aware that a spell was being cast on me
Incanus
GM, 55 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 29 Jul 2023
at 19:58
  • msg #133

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I just realized it was in a private note, apologies to Elly.  But it is a healing spell, if that helps.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 37 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Sat 29 Jul 2023
at 20:07
  • msg #134

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Well, if Einar is aware that magic is involved he would resist.
It does not make sense to me that there should be instant trust.
If he has no notion (like I the player was) then just continue.
Incanus
GM, 56 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 29 Jul 2023
at 20:20
  • msg #135

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Based on Elly’s description of the activity is it obvious she is using magic?  I think the answer is no, and therefore he has no way of knowing.  It looks like she is applying an herbal remedy and then saying a prayer.
This message was last edited by the GM at 20:21, Sat 29 July 2023.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 44 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 29 Jul 2023
at 21:49
  • msg #136

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 131):
TY! All good. I was trying to do it discreetly so that it seemed to be herbalism.
The prayer runs for 4 rounds then, please, maybe with gentle massaging around the leaf.

I'd assumed Einar removed his lower body chain anyway (for access).

One thing I didn't quite get: if the healing spell does not cause corruption, hoe come the 1d100+20 roll is needed? Is that for some consequence other than corruption?
Incanus
GM, 57 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 29 Jul 2023
at 22:58
  • msg #137

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yes, the risk factor is to see if the use of magic draws unwanted attention from the Enemy or his minions.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 20 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Mon 31 Jul 2023
at 21:51
  • msg #138

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)


Currently abroad until the 11th.  I will keep posting but I am likely a bit less regular.
Incanus
GM, 58 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 1 Aug 2023
at 00:05
  • msg #139

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Waiting to see if Elly will go through with the spell casting, Einar would then get a resistance roll, and then I roll to see if it attracted attention.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 45 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Tue 1 Aug 2023
at 01:47
  • msg #140

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yes please, as posted in the IC thread
This message was last edited by the player at 02:07, Tue 01 Aug 2023.
Incanus
GM, 59 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 1 Aug 2023
at 21:33
  • msg #141

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Elly Shae (msg # 140):

Right as I said above, you need to make a Base Spells roll.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 46 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Tue 1 Aug 2023
at 22:21
  • msg #142

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I've got Base Spell OB as a string of XX on the char sheet, and no ranks in it. Does IT bonus apply for Channeling?
Is the roll at -25 if there are no ranks on Base Spells?
Does it cost 2 DP from elsewhere to buy a rank in Base Spells?
I ddidn't actually know target's wearing of chain made a difference. Can Elly have had him remove that chain?
Incanus
GM, 60 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 1 Aug 2023
at 23:03
  • msg #143

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Base Spells, near as I can tell, only get a bonus from the per level profession bonuses.  As such, there is no -25 unskilled.  There is a preparation modifier, range modifier, and modifier for target actions (+10 if standing still, -10 to -30 if the target takes cover).

Since Einar is not moving there is +10 for that; if Elly takes 4 round to prepare there is +20 and if she is touching him then that is +30.   Like any "attack" action, the result is compared to the armor worn for an effect.  Magic being negatively affected by metal means the failure chance is highest for Chain or Plate armor (01-16), and all spells fail on an Unmodified 01-02.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 38 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Wed 2 Aug 2023
at 04:34
  • msg #144

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Huh? How could you even cast a spell unskilled?
Otric
Beorning Warrior, 5 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 2 Aug 2023
at 05:18
  • msg #145

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Wiggle you fingers and go abracadabra and hope something happens :)
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 47 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Wed 2 Aug 2023
at 07:30
  • msg #146

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly's bought the spell list.
Incanus
GM, 61 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 2 Aug 2023
at 11:52
  • msg #147

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

It’s not unskilled, she knows the spell list.  That’s why there is no -25 on the base spells roll.
Incanus
GM, 63 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 7 Aug 2023
at 01:08
  • msg #148

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

My 'plan' such as it is, involves everyone who has now met at the ford to get together and go goblin hunting, with a top priority being finding and if possible rescuing Einar's two companions.  As Players you all know one of them is safe and found a friend.  Once the group decides to go on the hunt and start heading North and East towards the hills they will encounter the last two and from there they go to find the missing Rohirric warrior.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 40 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Mon 7 Aug 2023
at 07:25
  • msg #149

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Will be absent 07th (afternoon) - 14th Aug (latter depending on westher)
Incanus
GM, 64 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 9 Aug 2023
at 01:45
  • msg #150

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

General advisory that I will be moving 13 time zones this weekend, more or less permanently.  While the move will not alter my posting rate much (after we get settled in), it will alter when I am on line relative to now.  Also, it involves starting a new position so it may be hectic for me for a short while.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 50 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Wed 9 Aug 2023
at 08:05
  • msg #151

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Good luck with your new post (employment)!
Incanus
GM, 65 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 10 Aug 2023
at 11:50
  • msg #152

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Ayleth dropped out, I have three players “on the bench” who want to join, one will be joining soon.  However, I want to get beyond the ford and into the adventure, so please RP your way to collectively agreeing to go looking for the missing men and I will change scenes.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 21 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Thu 10 Aug 2023
at 12:22
  • msg #153

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus:
Ayleth dropped out


Do you mind if she takes Kharrum's missives back to Dol Amroth? Happy to puppet her to that effect to move the scene forward
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 23 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Thu 10 Aug 2023
at 14:50
  • msg #154

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)


Still abroad but will be back home on Saturday where posting will be easier.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 12 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Thu 10 Aug 2023
at 15:11
  • msg #155

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

The only reason I don't post more often is because I'm not in the maing group, but still here
Incanus
GM, 66 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 10 Aug 2023
at 21:37
  • msg #156

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Kharrum Stonesinger:
Incanus:
Ayleth dropped out


Do you mind if she takes Kharrum's missives back to Dol Amroth? Happy to puppet her to that effect to move the scene forward


An elegant solution, that works well for me.  Thanks
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 42 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Sun 13 Aug 2023
at 10:17
  • msg #157

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

quote:
Goblins this close to Dol Amroth
Would Einar know of Dol Amroth?
It's more than 300 miles away according to some maps. Some 10+ days on horse.
At first I was not sure how to react to our dwarf's extensive (and regular) travels. I decided to be impressed, immensly so :D
Same would apply to the others I guess.
To clarify: this would be Einar's first voyage beyond the borders of Rohan except for some counter raids on Dunlendings.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 23 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Sun 13 Aug 2023
at 14:04
  • msg #158

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Kharrum is a courier, though Dol Amroth would have been further then he has travelled before. Folks may have noticed he knows a few words in several languages
Incanus
GM, 68 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 14 Aug 2023
at 00:59
  • msg #159

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Einar would know it as a place in Gondor.  At this time there is still some travel between Rohan and Gondor; Osgiliath is occupied (thought not by civilians) and Saruman is still The White and an ally of the free peoples.
This message was last edited by the GM at 01:29, Mon 14 Aug 2023.
Bregbor
Silvan Animist, 19 posts
NA (30), 23/23 Hits
Wed 16 Aug 2023
at 08:05
  • msg #160

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Back from holiday. Wrong power adapter, so no electronics. Stupid me.

I'm reading up so I can post again. The deer ran off, right?
This message was last edited by the player at 08:06, Wed 16 Aug 2023.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 43 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Sat 19 Aug 2023
at 08:08
  • msg #161

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Am confused about the directions.
We were/are south of the river, no? Moving north/northwest would require traversing the river, no?
Incanus
GM, 70 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 19 Aug 2023
at 12:53
  • msg #162

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I think I meant north east, I often confuse those, along with left and right.  I'll fix it.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 44 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Sat 19 Aug 2023
at 19:46
  • msg #163

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Thx
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 28 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 05:35
  • msg #164

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Just checking in if you're waiting for someone to post, GM?
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 54 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 07:54
  • msg #165

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Still here too
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 2 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 07:59
  • msg #166

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hi everyone!

I'm here too, but my charascter hasn't met the group.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 55 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 08:01
  • msg #167

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hi Galen!
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 3 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 08:05
  • msg #168

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hey Ellie :)
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 29 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 09:09
  • msg #169

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Welcome, Galen!
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 47 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 11:34
  • msg #170

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yeah, we have become quite a crew.
That being said I also am waiting for a GMpost for Kharrum's track.
Admittedly, though  I thought we'd first go to the ambush-/campsite last night and track from there... Einer's earlier comment referred to the horse tracks from that campsite to the ford.
Incanus
GM, 71 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 28 Aug 2023
at 12:24
  • msg #171

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I also expected that was the plan, so you guys can return to the camp site without a roll or other difficulty.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 52 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Fri 1 Sep 2023
at 17:19
  • msg #172

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yeah, kind of mixed up diverse systems, namely that even 1st Level characters are 'better' than common populace.
Shrug
Oh well
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 18 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Fri 1 Sep 2023
at 17:31
  • msg #173

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Well, in most MERP modules the watch of a city is composed of soldiers over 1st level...

This is not D&D where normal men were under 1st level and easily defeated by ab 1st level fighter, here most people has a level
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 53 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Fri 1 Sep 2023
at 17:33
  • msg #174

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 173):

Lol, most def not refering to DnD.
Incanus
GM, 74 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 00:41
  • msg #175

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 173):

Yes, the ICE games all assumed everyone has levels in some profession, which is why I emphasize that 1st level characters are really starting out.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 59 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 11:12
  • msg #176

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I looked again at spell casting for a healing spell (p203, Open Channeling, Surface Ways, Heal 10).

Table AT9 (MERP p235) gives modifiers for spell casting aith colums for metal armour, leather armour and no armour.
The notes to the right of the table says, "For Channelling spells if the target is wearing leather armour use the "no armour" column; if the target is wearing plate or chain modify the attack roll by -10.

What I can't figure out (clarification welcome, please!) is whether:
a) The three columns for armour type/no armour in AT9 relate to the caster's armour and the notes on target's armour are additional (for channeling spells only), or
b) The caster's armmour is irrelevant and the columns for armour type/no armour in AT9 relate to the target's armour.
This message was last edited by the player at 12:15, Sat 02 Sept 2023.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 20 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 11:27
  • msg #177

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

My MERP book (1st ed) has only 128 pages, so I cannot talk about p.235...

Nonetheless, in tyhe description of channeling magic (4.52), last sentence it's specified:

quote:
Metal interferes with drawing power from the Valar, so no metal armor, metal helmets or metal greaves may be worn when casting a Channeling spell.

It does not talk about the target of the spell...

I hope that serves
Incanus
GM, 75 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 11:29
  • msg #178

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

The table functions just like the attack tables, meaning the armor columns are for the target.  I missed the note about channeling spells ignoring the target's armor.  The other columns are for use with Essence spells, I suppose.
Incanus
GM, 76 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 11:31
  • msg #179

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Also, what is the plan?  There is a narrow path leading diagonally up to the cave entrance.  The area is pretty clear from where you are to the cliff face.  You don't see any sentries posted, but if they are inside the cave mouth you may not see them.  It will be dark soon, goblins tend to be more active at night.  One option could be to hide and watch, see what they are up to.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 21 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 11:43
  • msg #180

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Addenda:

Located AT9 (is on page 76 on the 1st ed).

The column refers to the target.  So, if you try to heal Berthold while he’s in his chain armor, you must roll and it will be a spell failure on a 26 or less (rolled on the Plate&chain table with a -10), while if you try to heal someone in leather armor it will only fail on a 04 or less, as it would be rolled in the no armor table (channeling ignores leather armor).

See that if you take 4 rounds to cast it, you’d have a +20 to the roll, though, so failing only on a 06 or less on a chain armored character, and on a 01-02 on any other (as UM 01-02 is a failure).

I don’t believe the range applies on touch spells, and, while if following the rules to the letter if the target is static you’d have a +10, I’m not sure this applies to those willing spells…
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 60 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 11:58
  • msg #181

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

If I'm honest I found it confusing (although it seemed clear enough when I played a long while back).

Berthold, I think the "willing", or not, applies to non-damaging but still offensive spells, e.g. something like Charm person, if that exists in MERP.
From memory, Heal 10 is "U", (a Utility spell) which may only be cast upon the caster, a willing target or an incapacitated target.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 23 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 12:15
  • msg #182

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly Shae:
If I'm honest I found it confusing (although it seemed clear enough when I played a long while back).

Berthold, I think the "willing", or not, applies to non-damaging but still offensive spells, e.g. something like Charm person, if that exists in MERP.
From memory, Heal 10 is "U", (a Utility spell) which may only be cast upon the caster, a willing target or an incapacitated target.


Agreed, but even so you must make your Spell Attack roll (table AT9), and the DMs are there...

So, if you attempt to heal someone in metal armor, and you try it in haste (no preparation), you will roll in the Plate&chain column, with a -10 for being metal armor on a channeling spell and a -30 for lack of preparation, so you'll have a spell failure on a 56 or less.

If the same attempt is done with 4 rounds preparation, you'll roll at the same table, with a -10 for metal armor and +20 for the preparation, so only failing on a 06 or less (if the static target applies, only a UM 01-02).

The fact the target is willing, though, avoids the use of the resistance table, so anything not being a spell failure is a success, while on an unwilling target (as you say, usually for non damaging attack spells, as charm or sleep) you'd have to overcome his resistence (with the DM achieved in the attack table)
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 62 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 2 Sep 2023
at 12:34
  • msg #183

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

ThX Berthold, that makes sense now.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 37 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Sun 3 Sep 2023
at 20:35
  • msg #184

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Given its Labour Day weekend for those folks in the US, I’m pausing for a bit, but Kharrum is ready to proceed into the cave when everyone’s had a chance to post
Incanus
GM, 77 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 4 Sep 2023
at 06:46
  • msg #185

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Remember when describing the approach/plan, you are currently a couple hundred yards away, it is getting dark, and there is a narrow slope that must be navigated to get up there.
Incanus
GM, 78 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 6 Sep 2023
at 11:37
  • msg #186

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

What is the plan, then?  Going up as a group?  Moving directly to the path, coming upon it from the side?  Or maybe moving in two groups, one covering the other with bows from some location?

Once you have the details, and as you move closer, roll Perception again.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 39 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Wed 6 Sep 2023
at 12:36
  • msg #187

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

What's being proposed by Kharrum is as follows:

- Bosco, Kharrum, Berthold and Otric head straight towards where the path begins on the cliff; if it makes sense to send Bosco and Otric slightly in front, then he's amenable as they seem more stealthy
- Elly and Bregbor cover with bows, where the horses and ponies are hobbled
- Assuming nothing untoward then Kharrum and Berthold take the lead up the narrow cliff path
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 28 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Wed 6 Sep 2023
at 13:32
  • msg #188

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Kharrum Stonesinger (msg # 187):

Berthold agrees with the plan

Incanus:
Once you have the details, and as you move closer, roll Perception again.

SHould we roll stalk/hide too?
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 40 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Wed 6 Sep 2023
at 13:36
  • msg #189

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

14:35, Today: Kharrum Stonesinger rolled 93 using 1d100+7 with the Role/Spacemaster system (fumble range of 1 to 5) with rolls of 86.  Stalk/Hide
14:35, Today: Kharrum Stonesinger rolled 29 using 1d100+22 with the Role/Spacemaster system (fumble range of 1 to 5) with rolls of 7.  Perception

Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 58 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Wed 6 Sep 2023
at 17:55
  • msg #190

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Kharrum Stonesinger (msg # 187):

Well, since Einar has no bow and no allocated role/function in the plan he follows at a distance of ~20yards
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 41 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Wed 6 Sep 2023
at 18:23
  • msg #191

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I wasn’t sure who had bows, but with the chain mail that works, or provide a guard on Elloy and Bregbor before they move? I’m envisaging we enter together. The split is just to get to the entrance
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 59 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Wed 6 Sep 2023
at 19:55
  • msg #192

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Kharrum Stonesinger (msg # 191):

That is a better idea.
Yeah, I'll stay behind with Elly and Bregbor and then move out with them
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 29 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Wed 6 Sep 2023
at 21:47
  • msg #193

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Happy with the plan too.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 30 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Wed 6 Sep 2023
at 21:53
  • msg #194

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)


Rule confusion: in MERP 2nd edition handbook, page 146, it says Dwarves see well at night and even in total darkness, which is potentially better than elves for this situation.  Elves see better at night outdoor but in total darkness, dwarves can at least see a bit.

@Kharrum Stonesinger, are you aware of this?

As for Bosco... nope, won't see nothing.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 42 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Wed 6 Sep 2023
at 21:56
  • msg #195

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Vision rules were less a thing back then so I would defer to the lore
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 8 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Thu 14 Sep 2023
at 18:09
  • msg #196

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

@Berthold

Goblins and Dwarves can see approx 10' in complete darkness.

When there is any light source, Elves can see at least SO' perfectly and fairly well up to 100'. In absolute darkness, however, they are no better than Men (i.e., they can't see at all).

Infravision (if that's your special ability) would enable you to see sources of heat up to 100', but I'm not sure it would help to detect natural obstacles, or a pit trap.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 32 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Thu 14 Sep 2023
at 18:18
  • msg #197

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Galen:
@Berthold

Infravision (if that's your special ability) would enable you to see sources of heat up to 100', but I'm not sure it would help to detect natural obstacles, or a pit trap.

Yes, that's the case. Berthold shared this with the others some posts ago
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 9 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Thu 14 Sep 2023
at 18:36
  • msg #198

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

That's cool!

The dwarf can lead and find a safe path, you can detect heat sources (goblins), but the rest of us will be completely blind unless there is a light source inside the cave. We wouldn't be able to fight.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 44 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Thu 14 Sep 2023
at 18:45
  • msg #199

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Kharrum passed his lantern to someone further back
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 33 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Thu 14 Sep 2023
at 18:45
  • msg #200

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

No one has magic light?

Once the surprise is lost, things would change...

Einar:
Einar wondered what the delay was. It seemed the group had met someone but could not discern details.
He turned to his immediate companions.
"Do any of you see what's up?"

Just i ncase you skipped it:

Berthold:
He made a sign to the others to join them when something came to his mind.
(underlying added)
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 10 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Thu 14 Sep 2023
at 18:58
  • msg #201

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I don't know what to expect, but my best guess is that passages will be unlit, and possibly trapped. Occupied areas are more likely be lit with torches and/or firepits, so if we manage to avoid the obstacles, there should be some light during encounters.

It's been two weeks (real time) since you arrived at the cave, so let's go in and find out what's there.
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 11 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Thu 14 Sep 2023
at 19:09
  • msg #202

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Einar:
Einar wondered what the delay was. It seemed the group had met someone but could not discern details.
He turned to his immediate companions.
"Do any of you see what's up?"


How far back are you?

Kharrum, Berthold, Otric and Bosco aare near the cave entrance, I believe they haven't yet started moving across the ledge. Galan was hiding nearby and has joined the group.

Elly Shae covered the advance, then jogged to catch up.

Bregbor "stayed behind, bow at the ready, while the others "snuck" up the small path. He'd eventually move up as well, but not before the ahead party was there."

Einar "remained behind with Elly and Bregbor who had bows and covered the approach of the others."


Edit: Bregbor has Kharrum's lantern.
This message was last edited by the player at 19:22, Thu 14 Sept 2023.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 62 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Thu 14 Sep 2023
at 19:24
  • msg #203

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Guess it depends on the respective bow's range.
Also, I think Elly has only posted as she did to advance the flow, i.e. I would assume she had not yet moved...
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 45 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Thu 14 Sep 2023
at 19:36
  • msg #204

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In terms of moving the scene forward, I'm waiting for input from the GM on what, if anything, occurs as we reach the cave mouth
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 34 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Thu 14 Sep 2023
at 19:46
  • msg #205

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Kharrum Stonesinger:
In terms of moving the scene forward, I'm waiting for input from the GM on what, if anything, occurs as we reach the cave mouth


Ditto (in fact, you ninja'd me on saying it)
This message was lightly edited by the player at 19:46, Thu 14 Sept 2023.
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 12 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Thu 14 Sep 2023
at 20:01
  • msg #206

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Kharrum Stonesinger:
In terms of moving the scene forward, I'm waiting for input from the GM on what, if anything, occurs as we reach the cave mouth

OK, that works for me :)
Incanus
GM, 79 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 15 Sep 2023
at 11:25
  • msg #207

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I was waiting to introduce Galen.

Galen, elves don't have Infravision, though Berthold does from a background option.
Incanus
GM, 81 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 15 Sep 2023
at 11:59
  • msg #208

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

The orc voices are not moving or getting nearer.
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 13 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Fri 15 Sep 2023
at 12:46
  • msg #209

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus:
I was waiting to introduce Galen.

Galen, elves don't have Infravision, though Berthold does from a background option.


Thanks, got that.
Incanus
GM, 82 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 16 Sep 2023
at 00:43
  • msg #210

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Those trying to sneak in roll Stalking.  Mind, if you simply move in quickly to strike without hesitation there is no Stalking required, of course then you can't determine how many there are before starting a fight.

If you do simply move in and attack tell me what target you are attacking relative to each other, as in, "the same one as Berthold" or "the one next to the one Berthold is attacking"
This message was last edited by the GM at 00:45, Sat 16 Sept 2023.
Incanus
GM, 84 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 16 Sep 2023
at 11:56
  • msg #211

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Okay, moving into combat rounds.'

I have declarations from Berthold, Einar, Galen and Elly.  Those four of you please wait before posting again.  The first three are attacking the same goblin, concentrating their attack.  Elly is sneaking in (and rolled poorly.)

I need actions from Bosco, Bregbor, Kharrum and Otric.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 47 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Sun 17 Sep 2023
at 11:38
  • msg #212

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Apologies for the delay, surprise visit from my siblings for my birthday
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 70 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sun 17 Sep 2023
at 11:45
  • msg #213

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Kharrum Stonesinger (msg # 212):

Happy Birthday!
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 18 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Sun 17 Sep 2023
at 13:54
  • msg #214

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Happy Birthday Kharrum!!
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 38 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Sun 17 Sep 2023
at 14:02
  • msg #215

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

A good reason for the delay. Happy birthday
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 48 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Mon 18 Sep 2023
at 19:34
  • msg #216

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Thanks folks!
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 33 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Mon 18 Sep 2023
at 22:50
  • msg #217

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Happy Birthday Kharrum!
Bregbor
Silvan Animist, 28 posts
NA (30), 23/23 Hits
Tue 19 Sep 2023
at 17:50
  • msg #218

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

A belated happy birthday
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 49 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Tue 19 Sep 2023
at 18:01
  • msg #219

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Thanks!
Bregbor
Silvan Animist, 29 posts
NA (30), 23/23 Hits
Wed 20 Sep 2023
at 10:40
  • msg #220

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Can a character prepare a bow - move and then fire or is it prepare - move - prepare again - fire?
Incanus
GM, 85 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 20 Sep 2023
at 12:11
  • msg #221

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

If you spend an action loading or reloading you may only move 10 feet in that round.  You can load before combat starts and so begin the first round loaded to fire.  There is no "preparation" for missile weapons other than drawing or loading, unlike spells.  The 10 feet of movement comes after firing the missile weapon.  If attacking in Melee the 10 feet of movement can come before or after.  If you move more than 10 feet in the same round there is a -10 per increment of 10 feet on the OB.
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 19 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Wed 20 Sep 2023
at 23:12
  • msg #222

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Bregbor:
Can a character prepare a bow - move and then fire or is it prepare - move - prepare again - fire?


My understanding is that only the CROSSBOW can be pre-loaded. It takes 2 rounds (20 seconds) to load, but you can load it and walk around with a loaded crossbow ready to shoot. The other bows all take a round to load, or you can "reload" and fire in the same round with a penalty to OB.

Composite Bow  1-4  Puncture    75*    Load(1), or Reload(0) at -25 to OB.
Crossbow          1-5  Puncture    90      Load(2), + 20 OB at up to 50'.
Long Bow          1-5  Puncture   100*    Load(1), or Reload(0) at -35 to OB.
Short Bow         1-4  Puncture    60*     Load(1), or Reload(0) at -10 to OB.
Sling                 1-6  Crush(D)    50*    Load(1), can use with a shield.

* A character may not move with these weapons loaded and ready to fire. They may be carried in hand and fired as if reloading (penalty applies).

All of the bows and the sling require loading and reloading. The number of rounds required for loading each weapon (and reloading without penalty) is given on the Weapon Statistics Table CST- 1. Some of the weapons can be reloaded in fewer rounds (even 0 rounds), resulting in a modification (given in the table) to the next missile attack roll made by that weapon. Unless the load/reload time is 0, loading or reloading counts as the action for a round, but the character may still move up to 10'.

E.g. A composite bow normally takes 1 round to load or reload without penalty, and thus could be fired once every other round without penalty. However it may be reloaded in 0 rounds ("reload(O) at -25 to OB") and fired the round immediately following a round in which it was fired, if the OBfor that round is reduced by 25. Thus firing every round results in a -25 penalty to the firer's OB.
This message was last edited by the player at 23:13, Wed 20 Sept 2023.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 65 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Mon 25 Sep 2023
at 15:44
  • msg #223

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I had my shield ready, so it's a 1H attack.
A 2H would be at +10OB in comparison to the 1H use.

Anyway, since we'd better not go to the trouble on retro-engineering I'll continue this fight 2H use.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 40 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Mon 25 Sep 2023
at 16:39
  • msg #224

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Einar:
rolled 109 using 1d100 with the Role/Spacemaster system (fumble range of 1 to 5) with rolls of 96,13.  Crit, if req.</small></orange>

I'm afraid it added both rolls instead of counting them independently...

I guess the two rolls were for Pu critical and Sl one. If so, you better roll them by setting he roll manually to d100, d100, so ti will make two diferent rolls, instead of adding them.

Of course, as it shows both of them, the problem is minor...
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 50 posts
RL (20/45), 50/50 Hits
Mon 25 Sep 2023
at 17:16
  • msg #225

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

That’s one open-ended roll; the system is set so the Dice Roller does that automatically
This message was last edited by the player at 17:42, Mon 25 Sept 2023.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 67 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Mon 25 Sep 2023
at 18:14
  • msg #226

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Kharrum Stonesinger (msg # 225):

This, my bad

quote:
-25 for their OB (these guys are weak)
D(efensive)B(onus), no?
This message was last edited by the player at 18:22, Mon 25 Sept 2023.
Incanus
GM, 87 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 26 Sep 2023
at 02:18
  • msg #227

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Einar (msg # 226):

Yes, DB.  Sorry.

Also, I deleted OOC only posts from the IC/Game thread.  Please don't post OOC only in there; that's what this thread is for.
This message was last edited by the GM at 02:21, Tue 26 Sept 2023.
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 22 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Tue 26 Sep 2023
at 06:34
  • msg #228

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus:
Also, I deleted OOC only posts from the IC/Game thread.  Please don't post OOC only in there; that's what this thread is for.


Thank you! I posted in the wrong thread.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 34 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Thu 28 Sep 2023
at 22:38
  • msg #229

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)


What are the rule about firing into melee?  I don't want to kill my companions.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 71 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 29 Sep 2023
at 07:45
  • msg #230

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Bosco Hedgehopper (msg # 229):

Exactly! Same query here, please.
Incanus
GM, 88 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 29 Sep 2023
at 11:31
  • msg #231

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I don't see a modifier, if someone else can find it, great!  Absent a modifier all I can say is "don't fumble."
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 42 posts
Chain (25 DB), 35/35 hits
Fri 29 Sep 2023
at 11:44
  • msg #232

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

IIRC my former GM (many years ago) required a perception roll to allow it. Failing it was firing at a random target in the melee.

Bur thais was a house rule...
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 23 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Mon 2 Oct 2023
at 08:49
  • msg #233

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Is it possible to set a time limit for players to make IC posts?

If a player leaves the game or simply chooses not to post an action for a particular round, we could be waiting indefinitely. If we had a time limit, of say 48 hours, the GM could move the scene forward without waiting for every player to post.
Incanus
GM, 90 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 3 Oct 2023
at 12:14
  • msg #234

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly Shae wrote:

quote:
Are the goblins that Elly heard approaching from outside the cave? Upon turning gently to look how many does she see and at what distance?


She doesn't see any, yet.  She only hears them.  They are coming from deeper in the cave system, not from outside.  Since the post above is mostly OOC and not well delineated, I removed it to here.  You are free to post an IC action based on the information you have.  I will see about getting a map up.

EDIT:  to answer another question, there are no light in the caves.  Goblins don't need them.  The only light is what is fading fast coming in from outside, and anything you bring.
This message was last edited by the GM at 12:15, Tue 03 Oct 2023.
Incanus
GM, 91 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 3 Oct 2023
at 12:21
  • msg #235

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Okay, Game Map 0 is up.  Scroll to the bottom, 1. is the path up, 2 is a pile of leaves, 3 is where the goblins you killed were, 4 is the cave where Elly is; the others can follow in if desired.  The passage 'up' is where she hears more goblins coming from.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 69 posts
Chain (25s), 41/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Tue 3 Oct 2023
at 17:36
  • msg #236

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

If a crit cause more hits these are not tracked for XP, right?


quote:
Einar a 13B +10 hits from the crit
I'll track 13 Hits and B crit not 23 Hits and B crit
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 73 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Tue 3 Oct 2023
at 19:58
  • msg #237

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 235):

The map is a huge help, thank you!
Elly isn't where I'd envisaged but happy to go with it. Going to catch up on posts. (I'm in the Lake District at the moment so don't have my books).
Is the ambush skill applicable to melee only? Or could it apply to a ranged attack?
Incanus
GM, 92 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 4 Oct 2023
at 11:25
  • msg #238

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

All hits you do count for xp.  The goblin had no armor, not chain, so 23B.

Ambush only works with melee attacks.
Incanus
GM, 93 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 4 Oct 2023
at 11:58
  • msg #239

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

The posted actions I had for Elly is that she was sneaking into the cave.  Everyone else stopped in the entryway to fight the goblins, hence, she is already inside the first chamber.  Yes, she can swap out the weapons.

Incidentally, I received a message from Bregbor asking to withdraw for personal family reasons.  I offered to keep things as they are and them going on hiatus, preserving their ability to rejoin if/when things improve.  For now Bregbor will be an NPC and will only actually do anything if help is needed.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 75 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Wed 4 Oct 2023
at 17:51
  • msg #240

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 239):

All good here, TY!
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 25 posts
RL (40/65), 20/20 Hits
Mon 9 Oct 2023
at 07:58
  • msg #241

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Are we waiting for someone to post?
Incanus
GM, 95 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 11 Oct 2023
at 11:31
  • msg #242

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Was waiting for Bosco, will get the round summary up in the next day or so.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 78 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 21 Oct 2023
at 16:23
  • msg #243

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Just to be sure, has Goblin #3 dropped? i.e. is out of the combat?
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 39 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Sat 21 Oct 2023
at 23:32
  • msg #244

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Sorry, I am trying to visualise the action.  Goblin 6 is running away and is not in melee.

Apart from that one, are there any other goblins not in melee?

(Bosco is a bit worried about shooting into melee, so he might shoot at #6 or another one if not in melee but looking more dangerous than a retreating one)
Incanus
GM, 98 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 21 Oct 2023
at 23:48
  • msg #245

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

None of the goblins have dropped, they are all conscious and active, though some are at minus to activity.  Six is running away.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 81 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 27 Oct 2023
at 15:57
  • msg #246

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Berthold:
...Berthold kept attacking the incoming goblin...At least he hit him this time...

Elly is planning to come and help. Hopefully goblins #3 & #4 may be below half hits so will attack at -20.
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 72 posts
Chain (25s), 34/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Thu 2 Nov 2023
at 08:50
  • msg #247

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Apologies, down with Corona. Yeah, could not believe it myself and would not have even tested if not for the fact that my old dad got it and we were visting the family.
Bother

GM, I noticed you uodated by nio, thanks.
Did you also adjust XP tracker? I changed before I checked whether you did...
This message was last edited by the player at 08:59, Thu 02 Nov 2023.
Incanus
GM, 100 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 2 Nov 2023
at 13:09
  • msg #248

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I did not adjust the XP tracker, no.  Do take care and I hope all is well with your Dad.
Incanus
GM, 102 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 11 Nov 2023
at 07:09
  • msg #249

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I meant to update a couple of days ago but my internet went out and took a while to get it back.  Round 8 is now, your turn!
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 74 posts
Chain (25s), 34/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Mon 13 Nov 2023
at 08:50
  • msg #250

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Uff, destroyed eye?
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 42 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Mon 13 Nov 2023
at 11:10
  • msg #251

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus:
I don't see a modifier, if someone else can find it, great!  Absent a modifier all I can say is "don't fumble."


If I understand, fumble could injure my companions but we go normal for the rest.  (I can't find anything in MERP for specific modifiers for this situation).
In that case, Bosco will keep shooting as his melee OB is far below his missile OB (strength penalty for hobbits are very harsh)
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 83 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Mon 13 Nov 2023
at 11:22
  • msg #252

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Bosco Hedgehopper (msg # 251):

You might consider adding a caveat that goes something like: "...aiming at whichever foe is most visible..."
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 43 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Mon 13 Nov 2023
at 14:28
  • msg #253

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

@Incanus: would it be possible to add an enemy status summary at the bottom of the post in the OOC section, I saw it used in other games and I think it can be helpful.  Something along current action/status, total hits taken so far, bleeding info, condition/penalties.

E.g.:
Goblin 1: Attacking Galen - ? hits
Goblin 2: Attacking Einar - ? hits
Goblin 3: Attacking Ely - ? hits
Goblin 4: Dead
Goblin 5: Attacking Berthold - 9 hits?
Goblin 6: Ran away - 18 hits

Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 84 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Mon 13 Nov 2023
at 15:23
  • msg #254

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

If it helps our GM I'd be happy to housekeep that..
Incanus
GM, 103 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 14 Nov 2023
at 11:51
  • msg #255

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I don't normally reveal enemy hits, rather use narrative language to describe the injuries and how they are doing.

By my tally, as of the end of round 7:

Goblin 1: uninjured
Goblin 2: uninjured
Goblin 3: -32 hits, bleeding -2/rnd
Goblin 4: Dead
Goblin 5: Uninjured
Goblin 6: -18 hits, out of sight.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 85 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Tue 14 Nov 2023
at 14:22
  • msg #256

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 255):

For goblin #3 I get something slightly different:

Round 4, 10B (crit 61-10=51 = +4 hits, -2hits/round, stun 1), total = 14 hits, -2/r, Stun 1;
Round 5, 16 hits, stun 0; plus: 16C (crit 06 = +0 hits, -1 hits/round), total = 32 hits, -3/r
Round 6, 35 hits, -3/r
Round 7, 38 hits, -3/r
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 45 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Tue 14 Nov 2023
at 17:02
  • msg #257

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus:
I don't normally reveal enemy hits, rather use narrative language to describe the injuries and how they are doing.

I don't disagree with that view at all.  I agree that the narrative is nicer, more roleplaying and brings more flavour.
I guess my suggestion is that I keep scrolling back and forth between older messages to try to keep track of which goblins is attacking who and which one is injured or bleeding which is something that should be immediately visible to the characters (albeit not precisely).

To keep precise hits hidden and stay in a flavour over number style, would a qualitative style be preferred?  E.g.

Goblin 1: melee Galen - uninjured
Goblin 2: melee Einar - uninjured
Goblin 3: melee Ely - seriously injured and bleeding
Goblin 4: Dead
Goblin 5: melee Berthold - uninjured
Goblin 6: Ran away - injured


P.S.: Alternatively, I could keep my own status summary notes, just take my own responsibilities.  So maybe I should not even ask. I won't be offended if you prefer not to.
Incanus
GM, 105 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 18 Nov 2023
at 11:28
  • msg #258

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

These six goblins are/were wearing rigid leather without any arm, leg or head protection.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 87 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 18 Nov 2023
at 11:43
  • msg #259

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 258):

Thank you, that's good to know. Do they all have shields?
If so, was goblin 5's broken (left) arm its shield arm? Or its sword arm?
Incanus
GM, 106 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 18 Nov 2023
at 14:17
  • msg #260

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Elly Shae (msg # 259):

From the last update:

"The blow instead shatters his left shoulder, breaking his arm and leaving it dangling uselessly"
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 88 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 18 Nov 2023
at 14:35
  • msg #261

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

TY
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 90 posts
Plate (25/50), 23/28 Hits
Thu 7 Dec 2023
at 10:22
  • msg #262

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Looks like 3 weeks since Einar was last here. Have we lost him?
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 33 posts
RL (40/65), 10/20 Hits
Fri 8 Dec 2023
at 09:06
  • msg #263

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus hasn't logged in either, hope he's OK.
Incanus
GM, 108 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 9 Dec 2023
at 01:44
  • msg #264

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I'm back.  Weird week and unexpected travel.  Will work out an update today.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 91 posts
Plate (25/50), 23/28 Hits
Sat 9 Dec 2023
at 10:07
  • msg #265

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 264):

Welcome back!
:)

I'd forgotten how tough MERP goblins are.
Feel like the equivalant of an AD&D troll
This message was last edited by the player at 10:08, Sat 09 Dec 2023.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 50 posts
Chain (25 DB) -13/35 hits
Sat 9 Dec 2023
at 11:27
  • msg #266

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I'm reducing Berthold's hits at the rate on 1/round, unable to do anything else...
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 35 posts
RL (40/65), 3/20 Hits
Sat 9 Dec 2023
at 11:33
  • msg #267

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 266):

Me too, I think I'm down to 3, or maybe even 2. I've lost track.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 93 posts
Plate (25/50), 23/28 Hits
Fri 15 Dec 2023
at 05:12
  • msg #268

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Had anyone heard from Einar?
Incanus
GM, 110 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 15 Dec 2023
at 11:41
  • msg #269

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I have not, and will continue to roll for him when I do the updates if he doesn't return.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 94 posts
Plate (25/50), 23/28 Hits
Fri 15 Dec 2023
at 12:44
  • msg #270

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Fair enough, TY!
Einar
Rohirric Warrior, 77 posts
Chain (25s), 26/41 Hits
M&M+5, Perception+5
Mon 1 Jan 2024
at 17:33
  • msg #271

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Apologies, had a real tough time.
Will try to get back to date.
Happy New Year, btw
Incanus
GM, 113 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 2 Jan 2024
at 02:43
  • msg #272

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Welcome back, and I hope all is better now and into the new year
Incanus
GM, 114 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 4 Jan 2024
at 12:55
  • msg #273

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Einar, are you going to take an action?
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 97 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Thu 4 Jan 2024
at 14:03
  • msg #274

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hapyy NY, all!
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 51 posts
Chain (25 DB) -14/35 hits
Thu 4 Jan 2024
at 14:06
  • msg #275

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Happy 2024 to everyone.
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 37 posts
RL (40/65), 0/20 Hits
Thu 4 Jan 2024
at 14:23
  • msg #276

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Happy New Year!
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 98 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Tue 9 Jan 2024
at 01:30
  • msg #277

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I just noticed it tells us that Einar last lasted a week ago but no longer says when 'last visited' was.
Is that the same for everyone or just not visible to me?
Incanus
GM, 115 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 9 Jan 2024
at 01:44
  • msg #278

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

As GM I see Last Visited and Last Posted as separate columns.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 62 posts
RL (20/45), 22/50 Hits
Tue 9 Jan 2024
at 05:07
  • msg #279

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly Shae:
I just noticed it tells us that Einar last lasted a week ago but no longer says when 'last visited' was.
Is that the same for everyone or just not visible to me?


It's one of the changes introduced deliberately in the responsive release, to prevent stalking. Discussion in the RPoL Development forum from jase, but the GM can still see activity (and only the GM)
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 99 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Tue 9 Jan 2024
at 08:52
  • msg #280

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Thank you! (Not sure I understand stalking in that context but I'm pleased it's not just something gone wrong at my end)
Incanus
GM, 116 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 9 Jan 2024
at 12:06
  • msg #281

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Waiting for actions from Kharrum and Einar.  Will roll for them tomorrow if they don't post anything overnight.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 100 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Thu 11 Jan 2024
at 01:37
  • msg #282

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Kharrum's posted but looks like Einar's got RL stuff again
Incanus
GM, 117 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 17 Jan 2024
at 11:49
  • msg #283

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Sorry folks, just checking but are Kharrum, Bosco and Elly (and Einar) the only ones standing?  I am trusting you to track your hits.  If so I will advance to the next round immediately with apologies for the delay.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 101 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Wed 17 Jan 2024
at 12:27
  • msg #284

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I track mine but not really anybody else's.
Yes, I believe that is all who are standing.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 52 posts
Chain (25 DB) -15/35 hits
Wed 17 Jan 2024
at 12:40
  • msg #285

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus:
Sorry folks, just checking but are Kharrum, Bosco and Elly (and Einar) the only ones standing?  I am trusting you to track your hits.  If so I will advance to the next round immediately with apologies for the delay.


Well, Berthold is not standing, but I'm still here, if that's what you mean...

I keep subracting his HP each round
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 102 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Wed 17 Jan 2024
at 13:41
  • msg #286

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 285):

Elly's paln is that we hopefully put these two orcs down soon, first aid you, and then sling you over shoulder and put a bit of distance and daylight between us and the cave for some magical healing.. Similar for our other casualty.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 64 posts
RL (20/45), 22/50 Hits
Wed 17 Jan 2024
at 20:07
  • msg #287

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I’m still standing but I’ve been remiss on adjusting my bio line (only bleeding one per round and high hits for first level)
Incanus
GM, 118 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 18 Jan 2024
at 12:30
  • msg #288

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Great, thank you all.  I'm sorry you've been sitting it out Berthold, but thank you for your patience.

Bosco, since we are using "theater of the mind" whether or not you get a flanking or rear bonus depends entirely on how you describe his movements.  So far, near as I can tell, he's been standing still in a corner flinging sling stones.  Not a bad tactic in principle, but I don't recall him moving much from the entrance, and so have been placing him near there.  If you want to edit your post I can update tomorrow.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 51 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Thu 18 Jan 2024
at 23:08
  • msg #289

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Thanks for the clarification.

I was trying to mean that he is moving if sensible by "manoeuvres himself to the best position for his next shot, trying to get behind or at least flank one of the goblins." .
I'll try to be more explicit about repositioning.
On the previous shot, there had been IC statements about efforts by Elly to help Bosco get a flanking shot and Bosco trying to take advantage of it but the result seems to mean that it had not been sufficient.  So I am trying to figure out what I need to do.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 53 posts
Chain (25 DB) -15/35 hits
Thu 18 Jan 2024
at 23:21
  • msg #290

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus:
Great, thank you all.  I'm sorry you've been sitting it out Berthold, but thank you for your patience.

Not your flawl my bad luck...
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 103 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Thu 18 Jan 2024
at 23:22
  • msg #291

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Bosco Hedgehopper (msg # 289):

You could try imagining (visualising) that you're playing with minis and describe where you want your char moved to. That's kindof what I try to do (IC).

Edit: You might want to stipulate, "Moving no more than 10', I try to gain a flanking position..."
Otherwise, IIRC, it's -10 to hit per additional 10 moved (or part thereof).
This message was last edited by the player at 23:26, Thu 18 Jan.
Incanus
GM, 119 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 18 Jan 2024
at 23:26
  • msg #292

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Bosco, yes, that previous effort I took into account and gave you a bonus.  The last message you posted didn’t mention anything about repositioning or specific attempts as such, so wanted to give you the chance to edit and put that in.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 104 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Sat 20 Jan 2024
at 00:14
  • msg #293

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

As it's now 3 weeks since his last OOC post I propose that we proceed without waiting further for Einar.
I'm not being mean here: when he's able to join in again IC then of course we'll welcome him back!
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 38 posts
RL (40/65), 0/20 Hits
Sat 20 Jan 2024
at 13:37
  • msg #294

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In one of the other games I play, the GM gives us 48 hours. If we don't post, he assumes we're not moving or attacking that turn, and we progress to the next round. Keeps the game ticking over and all the players engaged.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 106 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Mon 22 Jan 2024
at 18:41
  • msg #295

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

@ Bosco - I think it's very likely that the 104 sling stone result (+35 rear = 139) will result in a crit.
May I suggest you roll a further 1d100 as a crit roll?
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 53 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Mon 22 Jan 2024
at 22:10
  • msg #296

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yup, I am hoping for a big critical, hopefully disabling :-)
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 54 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Mon 22 Jan 2024
at 22:14
  • msg #297

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Added a critical roll to my post if needed/desired
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 107 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Mon 22 Jan 2024
at 23:58
  • msg #298

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Bosco Hedgehopper (msg # 297):

I think you may have got (one of) his legs. Nice shot!
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 55 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Tue 23 Jan 2024
at 12:23
  • msg #299

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hopefully, (depending on armor, DB and flanking/rear bonus) that would be enough to disable one.  We sure need it.
Mildly worried about reinforcements 'though :-(
This message was last edited by the player at 12:43, Tue 23 Jan.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 109 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 13:12
  • msg #300

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

No prizes for guessing that Bosco's reloading his sling this round!
Ha!
Incanus
GM, 122 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 13:52
  • msg #301

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

The last guy is pretty screwed: stunned for 3 rounds, -40 to activity, less than half hits: we're looking at something like -80 to his OB for the next two rounds (he was stunned before his actions on the current round, so it counts as his first of three stunned rounds.)
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 110 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 16:34
  • msg #302

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Stun stacks, I get it. TY!
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 111 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 16:44
  • msg #303

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly wants to stop Berthold bleeding and then carry him over-shorlder and put some distance between us and the goblin cave so that magical healing (including removal of metallic armour) might be feasible.

Is the above feasible?
And is it probably still daylight outside?

From memory a tourniquet can stop up to 5 hits/round bleeding. How long does it take to apply a tourniquet?
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 54 posts
Chain (25 DB) -16/35 hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 16:58
  • msg #304

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly Shae:
From memory a tourniquet can stop up to 5 hits/round bleeding. How long does it take to apply a tourniquet?

According the rules (page 43, section 4.73 in first edition)

quote:
Hits per round: A bandage and compress sillay stop 1, 2 or 3 hits per round (or reduce a hits per round "wound" by 3). (...) A tourniquet will stop 4 to 10 hits per round from a limb wound (...)


So, as I understand it, you don't need a tourniquet unless a single wound produces more than 3 hits per round
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 112 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 17:39
  • msg #305

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 304):
TY!
It sounds like that can be done in 1 round. That sound right?

Also, is it obvious that Berthold is bleeding more than 3 hits/round?
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 55 posts
Chain (25 DB) -16/35 hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 18:09
  • msg #306

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

No, Berthold is just bleding 1 hit per round

THe loss of an eye is more long time affecting, through...
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 68 posts
RL (20/45), 22/50 Hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 18:48
  • msg #307

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

(If someone knows enough to slap a bandage on Kharrum too, that would help )
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 113 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 19:03
  • msg #308

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 306):

There's probably a profusion of dark humour jokes floating around there bu I don't see any at the moment

In reply to Kharrum Stonesinger (msg # 307):
That's kind of why I was asking about how long emergency "stop bleeding" took.
Go to go out now but will post when I'm back in a few hours.
Would you object to Elly grabbing you/giving you orders so that hopefully we can all get gone without anyone bleeding to death?
Galen
Silvan Warrior, 39 posts
RL (40/65), 0/20 Hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 19:47
  • msg #309

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Galen is bleeding out too, but I've lost count of the turns.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 69 posts
RL (20/45), 22/50 Hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 20:11
  • msg #310

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Elly Shae (msg # 308):

Appreciated; I’m on 1/rnd so lowest priority. Also potentially the only one who speaks a little Orkish ;)
Incanus
GM, 124 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 22:27
  • msg #311

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

You could depart the cave and return to the outdoors. As I recall it was late in the day when you guys went in.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 114 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Wed 24 Jan 2024
at 23:12
  • msg #312

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Folks - do you want tostay in the cave? Or leave?
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 70 posts
RL (20/45), 22/50 Hits
Thu 25 Jan 2024
at 04:16
  • msg #313

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Are we inclined to try and rescue those Rohirrim? Just a handful of goblins did some long-term damage and now they know we're coming
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 116 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Thu 25 Jan 2024
at 06:21
  • msg #314

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yes, of course but probably not immediately.

IG there are now 5 less goblins than before. If there are two left we might prevail. But if there are 12 left, then we would not. Distance between us and them allows us to remove armour and attempt magical healing.  All that said, OOC we have two players waiting to get back into the game.
This message was last edited by the player at 06:22, Thu 25 Jan.
Incanus
GM, 125 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 26 Jan 2024
at 13:43
  • msg #315

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

The healing rules are on p. 75 of the 2nd edition MERP core.  Bandaging will stop bleeding of 3 hits/rnd or less, but if the character does more than simply walking for the next 8 hours the bleeding starts again.  The tourniquet needs to be loosened every 24 rounds for 5 rounds, incurring 3 hits/rnd for those 5 rounds.  The book does not say how long before the bleeding stops entirely.  Bandages can reduce the bleeding by 3/rnd, along with a tourniquet.  I will rule that it will take an hour of combined bandages and using the tourniquet to stop the bleeding entirely, if resting, since everyone regains 1 hit per hour of resting.  An application of Surface Ways will also stop the bleeding.  And Surface Ways will heal immediately 1d10 hits.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 117 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Fri 26 Jan 2024
at 23:08
  • msg #316

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

TY!
Using Surface Ways was thidea behind Elly wanting to get some distance between the adventuers and the goblins, i.e. to be more safely able to remove armour from healer and wounded..
Incanus
GM, 128 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sun 28 Jan 2024
at 06:16
  • msg #317

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Galen is withdrawing from the game, I believe not really getting into the MERP system.  It's not for everyone.  In that case the most graceful thing is for him to pass on the Halls of Mandos from here.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 56 posts
Chain (25 DB) -16/35 hits
Sun 28 Jan 2024
at 08:37
  • msg #318

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

You'll tell me when Berthold regains consciousness...
Incanus
GM, 129 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sun 28 Jan 2024
at 09:52
  • msg #319

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

When he regains enough hits to be positive.  It's going to take magical healing or time, unless anyone has some herbs.

Galen has two cloves of thurl, brewed into a tea they each heal 1-4 hits.  In addition, while normally it would rude to loot your companions, he has the following gear:

1x Backpack (holds 20lb) 2lb, 2bp
1x 25' Superior Rope 1.5lb, 6bp
1x Flint & Steel 0.5lb, 1bp
1x Torch 1lb, 3tp
1x Waterskin (full) 1lb, 1cp
1x Trail Rations (1wk) 14lb, 1b

Galen’s brooch (+30 DB) is of a silver star that functions as a cloak pin.

His Short Sword (+10 OB) is engraved with Sindarin script “Egladil aen estar nín, dagnir in torog im.” They were a gift from his mother, who was born in Lórien and is one of the Galadhrim.

In game, it would be nice if someone returned the brooch and sword to his family at some point.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 73 posts
RL (20/45), 22/50 Hits
Sun 28 Jan 2024
at 10:40
  • msg #320

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Given power levels I. The early game in MERP I think we’re obliged to loot the body take those things to return them to his family
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 120 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Sun 28 Jan 2024
at 22:26
  • msg #321

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

As a thought, reflecting the intial campaign details (magic lowered but availability of herbs increased) may I sugest that everyone starts with some familiarity with herbs? Possibly this could be one or two secondary skill points in relevant (non-combat) skills that fit the character class/background.

Elly would have herb lore (or something similar) as she had in the Rolemaster campaign from which she is derived.

Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 57 posts
Chain (25 DB) -16/35 hits
Mon 29 Jan 2024
at 07:32
  • msg #322

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Two questions (numbered to ease answers):

  1. what long term effects would the loss of an eye have for Berthold
  2. is there any way to heal it

Incanus
GM, 130 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 29 Jan 2024
at 10:45
  • msg #323

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Herb Lore is not a skill in MERP.  You can simply use herbs.  Generally, it is part of the background, if you come from a culture that knows about that stuff then you do as well.  Sometimes it is by profession, with Animist and Ranger generally knowing about that stuff.  There is no restriction other than funds and availability on buying them, and often the printed sourcebooks will say what herbs can be found in different areas.

Berthold, 1. no real game effect.  2. He can regain the eye with magic healing, though the spells are much higher level than anyone here can use right now.
Incanus
GM, 131 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 29 Jan 2024
at 10:48
  • msg #324

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Kharrum, make a perception roll, record it here, please.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 74 posts
RL (20/45), 22/50 Hits
Mon 29 Jan 2024
at 11:35
  • msg #325

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

11:34, Today: Kharrum Stonesinger rolled 115 using 1d100+22 with the Role/Spacemaster system (fumble range of 1 to 5) with rolls of 93.  Perception . – 115
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 58 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Tue 30 Jan 2024
at 09:37
  • msg #326

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

@Incanus: as per my previous post, Bosco was going to investigate the arguing goblins (which he thought was more scary and urgent) rather than going to tend to the injured (as they were already being taken care of)
Incanus
GM, 133 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 30 Jan 2024
at 13:19
  • msg #327

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Ah, yes that kind of got passed me Bosco.  He doesn't speak Orkish, though so none of what they were syaing to each other is known to him.  Was he going to try and sneak into the caverns to see more?  Or did he stay by the entrance to the deeper caves with Kharrum?  In the latter case he two can make a ranged attack.  In the former roll both Stalk and Hide.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 59 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Thu 1 Feb 2024
at 11:07
  • msg #328

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

My idea was that someone needed to have a look at what was happening and if there was danger that needed to be dealt with.  Bosco didn't know of Kharrum's plan to try to scare the goblin until he heard Kharrum  call.   At that point, he stopped what he was doing and put himself in a good position to intervene if needed (e.g. ready his sling and hide in a good location)
Incanus
GM, 134 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 1 Feb 2024
at 11:18
  • msg #329

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Okay, well to hide you need to make a Hiding Static maneuver, and the goblins get a perception check to spot you.  Please do that first (now) and then I'll see about possibly re-writing based on the results.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 60 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Thu 1 Feb 2024
at 21:45
  • msg #330

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I mean hide near Kharrum.  Hiding is alway better than not hiding... at least from Bosco's perspective. Since Kharrum called just as Bosco was starting to move towards the cave, I was assuming Bosco stopped almost immediately near the entrance rather than having had time to go deep in.

I guess I fail to hide:
Bosco Hedgehopper rolled a fumble of -72 using 1d100 with the Role/Spacemaster system (fumble range of 1 to 5) with rolls of 5,77.  Hide. –
Incanus
GM, 136 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 7 Feb 2024
at 10:44
  • msg #331

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

What's the plan, then?  Without regaining hits Berthold will remain unconscious.  (unfortunately and sorry about that)  Einar seems to have gone silent again, when you guys have a plan he will go along with it.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 122 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Wed 7 Feb 2024
at 13:08
  • msg #332

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I was pushing for us to retreat and recover 'in case there are lots more goblins',
 i.e. getting our fallen back up and into the game (essentially Berthold as Galen has withdrawn).

Looks like are close to committing to chase the goblins down. Meta I know, but:

@ Bosco & Kharrum - if you're fairly sure there's only a couple more goblins left then fine, let's do it quickly so that Berthold can join in again. Otherwise let us pull back so that Elly can heal Berthold (which requires removal of all metal on caster and patient).

If we are continuing to chase down a couple of goblins then perhaps we can take it that Elly & Einar have already stabilised everyone (apart from Kharrum, who's still dripping blood, and poor old Galen who's "beyond repair"). If so, Elly will join Bosco & Kharrum to take down the last couple of goblins, hopefully recue those who need rescue and then get Berthold mended.

@ GM - Two suggestions, your call of course, firstly that Einar could stand guard over unconscious Berthold to keep him from further harm, or secondly, perhaps leaving Berthold for a short while will amazingly prove unperilous for him and would allow the possibility for Berthold's player to run Einar until his own character is conscious again.
This message was last edited by the player at 00:54, Thu 08 Feb.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 58 posts
Chain (25 DB) -16/35 hits
Wed 7 Feb 2024
at 15:32
  • msg #333

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I guess Berthold has stopped bleeding (and so I don't keep reducing HPs), but it's still unconscious.

Please, tell me when he awakes and can, at least, speak. Until then, I'll keep just lurking (but still here, don't worry)
This message was last edited by the player at 15:32, Wed 07 Feb.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 62 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Wed 7 Feb 2024
at 23:24
  • msg #334

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Bosco's plan was initially to go take a look how many goblins there are.  But his poor attempt at sneaking was overtaken by a loud scary dwarf successfully scaring the scaredy goblins.  Right now, not sure how many goblins are left but knowing would be nice.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 77 posts
RL (20/45), 22/50 Hits
Thu 8 Feb 2024
at 04:52
  • msg #335

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Let's retreat to heal up Berthold
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 123 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Thu 8 Feb 2024
at 09:38
  • msg #336

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Kharrum Stonesinger (msg # 335): OK, I've gone with this in the IC thread.

***
In passing, did the goblins give any clues as to how many goblins remain here?
This message was last edited by the player at 09:59, Thu 08 Feb.
Incanus
GM, 137 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 8 Feb 2024
at 11:17
  • msg #337

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Kharrum heard at least three voices, one of which was "goblin 6" who ran off at the beginning of the fight.

I think that is a valid plan, I updated the map to show what Kharrum and Bosco see past the entrance; the red arrow points the direction the orcs ran.

If you guys want to move on either plan works for me (Einar guarding Berthold or Berthold's player running Einar.)
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 125 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Thu 8 Feb 2024
at 16:34
  • msg #338

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 337):

@ Kharrum & Bosco & Berthold - Your call, guys. Retreat and (magical) healing seems the cleanest way to me, but I'm happy with whichever way you want to do this.

(TBH I'm just looking for the quickest way to enable Berthold to get back into the game)
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 79 posts
RL (20/45), 22/50 Hits
Thu 8 Feb 2024
at 22:21
  • msg #339

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Let’s get Berthold back in the campaign
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 127 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Thu 8 Feb 2024
at 23:46
  • msg #340

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Kharrum Stonesinger (msg # 339):

Unless you're happy to keep bleeding and (the player of) Berthold runs Einar, then we need to retreat and do armour/metal removal to allow Elly's Surface Ways healing.
If we're happy with that then we can be there with a hand wave or two. GM needs us to confirm if we're going with :
  a) retreat, remove armour etc & heal or Berthold, or
  b) chase goblins now while leaving you bleeding and Berthold unconscious.

I vote for a).
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 80 posts
RL (20/45), 22/50 Hits
Fri 9 Feb 2024
at 06:14
  • msg #341

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

We have the option of c). Hold this chamber, remove armour and heal Berthold here

It may be easier to defend with limited points of ingress

Either c) or a) is fine by me.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 128 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Sat 10 Feb 2024
at 01:06
  • msg #342

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Fine, GM can select whichever of a) or c) works best for him.

Either of those are almost certainly the shortest RL time to get Berthold back in the game.
Elly's two spells restored 9 hits for him. Assuming no one else can do healing spells we're then into everyone regaining 1 Hit/hour if resting (until we reach the following day).
Incanus
GM, 138 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 10 Feb 2024
at 01:15
  • msg #343

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

The reactions of the goblins will differ substantially between a) and c) unfortunately, that is why I need you guys as players to pick one. As GM, from a narrative perspective, either one works, but c) carries more risk for you guys.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 129 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Sat 10 Feb 2024
at 01:35
  • msg #344

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Fine, staying with a) for me.
Kharrum is a) or c).
Berthold is unconscious.
Presumably if Kharrum isn't chasing goblins right now then Bosco won't go it alone.
Looks like we'll do a).

Can we go with that, please? in fact Elly has gone with that in the IC thread.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:39, Sat 10 Feb.
Incanus
GM, 139 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 10 Feb 2024
at 03:22
  • msg #345

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Done.
Incanus
GM, 141 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 10 Feb 2024
at 23:51
  • msg #346

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly and Kharrum can make Track checks to hide your tracks; Bosco can make a Hide check to hide the camp.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 132 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Sun 11 Feb 2024
at 00:03
  • msg #347

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 346):

00:02, Today: Elly Shae rolled 43 using 1d100+5 with the Role/Spacemaster system (fumble range of 1 to 5) with rolls of 38.  Tracking
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 82 posts
RL (20/45), 22/50 Hits
Sun 11 Feb 2024
at 09:33
  • msg #348

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 346):

Interesting, UM66

09:32, Today: Kharrum Stonesinger rolled 74 using 1d100+8 with the Role/Spacemaster system (fumble range of 1 to 5) with rolls of 66.  Track. – 74
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 64 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Mon 12 Feb 2024
at 00:43
  • msg #349

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hmm, 55, not very good.

01:41, Today: Bosco Hedgehopper rolled 55 using 1d100+27 with the Role/Spacemaster system (fumble range of 1 to 5) with rolls of 28.  Hide check.
Incanus
GM, 142 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 12 Feb 2024
at 01:44
  • msg #350

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

None of the rolls are very good, the dice roller is not hip.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 133 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Mon 12 Feb 2024
at 02:10
  • msg #351

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

@GM - Have we managed to rest for about 13 hours?
Incanus
GM, 144 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 12 Feb 2024
at 04:37
  • msg #352

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Close.  About 12 really, it was sundown when you left the caves it is now dawn.  barring a specific date and guessing we are in Spring or Autumn (can't remember if I said) then it should be about 12 hours of day or night per day.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 134 posts
Plate (25/50), 17/28 Hits
Mon 12 Feb 2024
at 09:07
  • msg #353

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 352):

@GM - TY!    :)

@Kharrum  - After 12 hours rest your 22/50 should improve to 34/50

@Bosco - You're still on max health (35/35)

@Berthold - After the magical healing and 12 hours rest your -16/35 should improve to 5/35
This message was last edited by the player at 09:12, Mon 12 Feb.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 84 posts
RL (20/45), 22/50 Hits
Mon 12 Feb 2024
at 09:09
  • msg #354

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Elly Shae (msg # 353):

Thanks; this is the only campaign that’s using the bio like this (that I’m in) so keep forgetting
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 135 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Mon 12 Feb 2024
at 09:14
  • msg #355

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

You're welcome.

I've only done the housekeeping on healing.
It's relying on you folks tracking your wounds & Hits/round etc.

Edit This took a while to track down (and check):

Einar got down to (ahem) -4/41, so after 12h rest would be on 8/41
This message was last edited by the player at 09:37, Mon 12 Feb.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 65 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Mon 12 Feb 2024
at 13:49
  • msg #356

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly Shae:
In reply to Incanus (msg # 352):

@Bosco - You're still on max health (35/35)


Yup, feeling somewhat guilty that I stay out of melee and let you all get injured but really even with the slow rate of fire, I think Bosco is better using missile than trying to melee.  You don't want to see me try to swing a sword with the Hobbit -20 ST modifier.

Longing for AD&D 2/1 bow ROF :-)
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 137 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Mon 12 Feb 2024
at 15:26
  • msg #357

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

If the trio rest until late afternoon (4pm) then I make it that we should be recovered thus:

Kharrum: 34/50 improves to 44/50

Berthold: 5/35 improves to 15/35

Einar: 8/41 improves to 18/41

***
Edit: Been digging into finding healing herbs (pp 68, 75, 243, 256 & 257).

   @GM - Are we in a mild, temperate (m) climate?
              - Or are we in a cool, temperate (t) climate?

Edit 2: Apparently the UK has a warm temperate climate (which seems to correspond to MERP's "mild temperate" category.
Less certain, but I think (southern) Canada would be cool temperate.


Edit 3: Hoping to move us along here, so have assumed we're in a cold temperate climate and that there's something of a deciduous/mixed forest nearby.
If so, Elly will go and search for Thurl and Rewk herbs. (Have other herb or herbs selected for other terrains and partially so for other climates. (We can use the same rolls whether good or less so).
Cut & pasted text from below to the IC thread.
This message was last edited by the player at 21:46, Mon 12 Feb.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 142 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Thu 15 Feb 2024
at 23:48
  • msg #358

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Minor Retcon:
IC thread, msg #275: '...Elly picks up Galen's blade, unsheathing the short sword, and reads the runes engraved thereon, “ 'Egladil aen estar nín, dagnir in torog im'. This is a magical blade**.”...'

Omitted immediately after that was: After a pause Elly adds, "This seems old, really old, from another age, but I think it says, 'I am Egladil, slayer of many trolls: trollbane'."


======
OOC: The above is the best translation I can work up but it isn't ratified by the GM.

Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 62 posts
Chain (25 DB) 5/35 hits
Fri 16 Feb 2024
at 06:48
  • msg #359

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

My mother has died tonight. She was 84 and has died in peace, but expect (at best) reduced activity for some days.
Incanus
GM, 147 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 16 Feb 2024
at 06:55
  • msg #360

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 359):

Please accept my sincere condolences to you and your family.  Take all the time you need.  This game is far down the list of concerns for anyone, in particular at such times.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 88 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Fri 16 Feb 2024
at 06:58
  • msg #361

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Please accept my condolences Berthold
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 143 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 16 Feb 2024
at 08:57
  • msg #362

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Sympathies and prayers for you and family
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 67 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Fri 16 Feb 2024
at 11:52
  • msg #363

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

My condolences to you and your family for your loss, Berthold.
Incanus
GM, 149 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 19 Feb 2024
at 01:13
  • msg #364

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Bosco, if you want to stay out of sight and quiet give my a Stalking roll.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 64 posts
Chain (25 DB) 5/35 hits
Mon 19 Feb 2024
at 10:14
  • msg #365

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

THanks to all of you for you support.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 69 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Tue 20 Feb 2024
at 23:33
  • msg #366

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 364):

00:32, Today: Bosco Hedgehopper rolled 46 using 1d100+27 with the Role/Spacemaster system (fumble range of 1 to 5) with rolls of 19.  Stalking. –
Incanus
GM, 151 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 29 Feb 2024
at 10:33
  • msg #367

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I'm updating now, but noticed that Elly referred to her eyes focusing on Galen.  I assumed you left his body behind at the camp with any mounts.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 147 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Thu 29 Feb 2024
at 13:21
  • msg #368

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

(Ooops, meant Berthold who had Galen's brooch).
Incanus
GM, 153 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 2 Mar 2024
at 06:24
  • msg #369

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

There is no illumination inside the cave.  The light from the entrance doesn't really filter down as far as the broken barricade, and is quite dim at the intersection
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 66 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Sat 2 Mar 2024
at 09:33
  • msg #370

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Berthold looks through the entrance, trying to accostume his eye to the darkness to see if there's any heat source...
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 149 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Thu 7 Mar 2024
at 17:31
  • msg #371

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

@ Berthold - Might the above be worth copying into the main thread?
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 68 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Thu 7 Mar 2024
at 18:10
  • msg #372

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly Shae:
@ Berthold - Might the above be worth copying into the main thread?

Done. It seems I wrote it in the wrong thread. Thanks for the heads up
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 150 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Thu 7 Mar 2024
at 18:35
  • msg #373

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 372):

You're welcome.  :)
It's fine kind of thing I do. (Feel free to nudge me if so.)
Incanus
GM, 155 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 16 Mar 2024
at 09:10
  • msg #374

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

it's been a while for Einar.  I will move him as needed.  Assume he agreed to the move light and proceed.  If you are trying to be stealthy make the Stalking rolls.
Incanus
GM, 156 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 18 Mar 2024
at 10:01
  • msg #375

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Is everyone trying to squeeze past the door/boulder?  Or is anyone trying to squeeze through?  Although the Stalking rolls are fine for moving about and speaking quietly, there is no quiet way to move the boulder/door.  That is why I am asking.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 95 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Mon 18 Mar 2024
at 10:18
  • msg #376

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 375):

Kharrum is keeping overwatch with his bow
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 73 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Tue 19 Mar 2024
at 12:50
  • msg #377

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus:
Is everyone trying to squeeze past the door/boulder?  Or is anyone trying to squeeze through?  Although the Stalking rolls are fine for moving about and speaking quietly, there is no quiet way to move the boulder/door.  That is why I am asking.

I thought that only a hobbit or goblin would be able to squeeze through and the party decided against sending Bosco on his own.  So we would have to move the door for the rest of the party to get through?
Incanus
GM, 157 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 20 Mar 2024
at 10:33
  • msg #378

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yeah, just wasn't clear to me what everyone was doing.  got it now.  (I think)
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 73 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Wed 20 Mar 2024
at 11:51
  • msg #379

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus:
Yeah, just wasn't clear to me what everyone was doing.  got it now.  (I think)

And you think well, at least on Berthold's part...
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 74 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Fri 22 Mar 2024
at 09:52
  • msg #380

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)


I am not sure if Bosco should know the number of prisoners that we are expecting/hoping to find?
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 74 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Fri 22 Mar 2024
at 13:01
  • msg #381

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Well, initially
Bosco Hedgehopper:
I am not sure if Bosco should know the number of prisoners that we are expecting/hoping to find?

Well, Einar and Berthold are looking for their two comrades.

Of course the possibility there may be more prioneers cannot be ruled out...
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 158 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 22 Mar 2024
at 14:24
  • msg #382

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Do we know for sure if the clink of chains is from chains restraining the figures?
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 75 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Fri 22 Mar 2024
at 14:54
  • msg #383

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly Shae:
Do we know for sure if the clink of chains is from chains restraining the figures?


Bosco doesn't know anything for sure.  For now, he was just trying to scratch his head and learn to count.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 159 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 23 Mar 2024
at 00:00
  • msg #384

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Is Bosco telling Elly & Berthold not to move the boulder?

(Who knows, it might be there to contain a quartet of ghouls or whatever other nasties, all the more likely as we're looking for only a pair of prisoners and these figures haven't said anything as yet).
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 75 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Sat 23 Mar 2024
at 13:46
  • msg #385

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Had Berthold them on his line of sight when he had looked for heat souces?

If so, and  having seen no such heat sources, this would indicate they're not living beings...
Incanus
GM, 159 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 23 Mar 2024
at 13:59
  • msg #386

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

No it is not in his line of sight.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 160 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 23 Mar 2024
at 14:17
  • msg #387

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Does Bosco have infravision?

If not and if he hasn't he talked to (any of) the four figures we can alway come back in a bit..
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 77 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Sat 23 Mar 2024
at 23:53
  • msg #388

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Unfortunately, I don't think hobbits have dark vision in MERP.   (I'd be very pleased if someone told me I am wrong on this)

Right now, Bosco has not spoken to anyone or anything.  He is leaving the figures alone and trying to find out if there are goblins about or where is the next tunnel from which goblins could appear.
Incanus
GM, 160 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sun 24 Mar 2024
at 00:02
  • msg #389

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

They do not.  For the rest of you, please go ahead with your actions (if you haven't already) I will update today.
Incanus
GM, 162 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 26 Mar 2024
at 08:20
  • msg #390

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Moving what appears to be an OOC question over here:

quote:
Does there seem to be a slope in the passageway?


The floor is generally uneven and bumpy.  Smoothes in places from wear/footfalls, in other places dirt between stones levels things a bit.  But there is no overall slant in one direction.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 163 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 30 Mar 2024
at 23:19
  • msg #391

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Does anyone apart from Berthold hear the ""Who is there?" question?
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 80 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Sat 30 Mar 2024
at 23:49
  • msg #392

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Elly Shae (msg # 391):

Oops, I am assuming that Bosco being inside with Berthold heard it.  If my assumption was wrong, I'll cancel my last post.
Incanus
GM, 164 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sun 31 Mar 2024
at 01:16
  • msg #393

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Bosco and Berthold heard it, they are inside the room.
Incanus
GM, 166 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 3 Apr 2024
at 02:12
  • msg #394

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Just to clarify.  Three bundles, two showed heat signs of life.  And when she moved her arms Berthild heard chains, so not tied with anything a knife can cut.  Please carry on.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 169 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Tue 9 Apr 2024
at 15:27
  • msg #395

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

So was Bosco able to release all the locks on their chains?
(i.e. with his Pick Locks result of 174 in msg #339)
This message was last edited by the player at 15:28, Tue 09 Apr.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 83 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Tue 9 Apr 2024
at 23:01
  • msg #396

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Unless there were actually no lock and Bosco was picking at a forged ring, I really do hope he succeeded :-)
(It might take me forever to roll that good again)
This message was last edited by the player at 23:15, Tue 09 Apr.
Incanus
GM, 169 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 9 Apr 2024
at 23:32
  • msg #397

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yeah, I’m fine with him opening the shackles on all theee wig that roll, presuming he is also releasing the dead man’s shackles.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 174 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Tue 16 Apr 2024
at 13:40
  • msg #398

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Just checking: we all happy to fall back to our previous resting place?

(Then we can try to heal the most injured and bury our dead)
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 99 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Tue 16 Apr 2024
at 14:20
  • msg #399

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yes
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 85 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Tue 16 Apr 2024
at 15:14
  • msg #400

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Well, the cave will be ther latter, but what might be inside, maybe will not...
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 175 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Tue 16 Apr 2024
at 15:29
  • msg #401

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

IIRC we're here to rescue two people.
I think we've found them: one unconscious and one dead. (Happy to be corrected here.)
We've also found another person (Rhûniel).

Elly's suggestion is based on a) these are the only folks we know about (that are in need of rescue), b) chasing coin, treasure or goblins is very secondary to the rescue and c) that we need to withdraw to try and heal the unconscious fellow. (Also, burying the dead fellow is a decent thing to do.)

All this said, is Berthold ok with withdrawal?
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 86 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Tue 16 Apr 2024
at 16:32
  • msg #402

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yes, through he would kike to avenge his comrade (and his own eye), he agrees
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 176 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Tue 16 Apr 2024
at 16:37
  • msg #403

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Happy to help with that afterwards, assuming nothing moves us in another direction
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 180 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sun 28 Apr 2024
at 18:55
  • msg #404

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

@ Incanus - is it correct that Rhuniel does not require healing?

Would a further healing spell help the unconscious fellow?
Incanus
GM, 177 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Mon 29 Apr 2024
at 00:06
  • msg #405

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Further healing spells will help recover hits but not the other damage that the man is suffering from (internal injuries).  For her, it is only hits damage, she will recover with natural healing.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 88 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Mon 29 Apr 2024
at 21:27
  • msg #406

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Do we have way to know if he is stable right now? If further healing spell could stabilise him? Or if he is still continuously worsening?
Incanus
GM, 178 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 1 May 2024
at 11:55
  • msg #407

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Medicine is not even an art among most people here, the Nolder's medical care and knowledge is magic to everyone.  That said, he is as stable as he is going to get.

I'm fine skipping some time, the question is how far?  And to get that answer, where are you going?
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 184 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Wed 1 May 2024
at 16:58
  • msg #408

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

How far is it to where it is appropriate to leave the unconscious fellow?
Or do we need to take him somewhere where elven medical care is possible?
And does the lady we've rescued want to go anywhere closer?
Incanus
GM, 179 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 2 May 2024
at 02:19
  • msg #409

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Roughly speaking, you i could go east to Rohan and leave him with people of the Westfold; South the Gondor; or North to Bree or Rivendell.  He doesn’t necessarily need elven magic to survive.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 89 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Thu 2 May 2024
at 06:01
  • msg #410

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus:
Medicine is not even an art among most people here, the Nolder's medical care and knowledge is magic to everyone.  That said, he is as stable as he is going to get. 

Even so I guess there are physicians and surgeons, as people get ill and hurt and most times there's not a Noldor at hand.

After all, the Houses of Healing in Minas Tirith, where Faramir and Eowyn went after the Battle of Fields of Pelennor, medicine was practiced, and it seems not by magic means...
Incanus
GM, 180 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 2 May 2024
at 06:47
  • msg #411

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yeah, that’s why I say he doesn’t need elvish healing, pretty much what he needs is supervised long term care.  Any of the places mentioned above could take care of him.  As a Rohirric warrior, probably the Westfold is the best option.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 104 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Thu 2 May 2024
at 12:22
  • msg #412

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Certainly the Westfold seems a solid plan
Incanus
GM, 181 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 3 May 2024
at 11:31
  • msg #413

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Einar formally withdrew from the game.  I will NPC him until you reach the Westfold, which we can do as a cut-scene if you prefer.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 186 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 3 May 2024
at 12:20
  • msg #414

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

It's a lot of xp from level 1 (10k) to level 2(20k) so xp from travelling might be something we shouldn't miss out on.
Maybe you can determine whatever encounters there are (if any) and then cut scene us to any drama.
Just a suggestion. :)

Anyway, very happy to cut scene
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 105 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Fri 3 May 2024
at 12:52
  • msg #415

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Seconding this, plus I think a feel for the road to the Westfold would be helpful
Incanus
GM, 182 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 3 May 2024
at 13:04
  • msg #416

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I'll work up a decent cut scene.  I think I will dispense with xp and just level you up when I feel like it.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 187 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 3 May 2024
at 14:03
  • msg #417

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

You don't think that disincentives PCs from doing things?
Perhaps an alternative is to halve the incremental xp requirements per level, e.g. from 10k to 5k required for progression from lvl 1 to 2 ?
Incanus
GM, 183 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 4 May 2024
at 01:21
  • msg #418

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Well, it looks like you guys are actually tracking the xp.  My Space Master group was doing so to variable degrees and they preferred the milestone leveling.

In terms of incentives, the XP system incentivizes combat and in RAW rewards 'stealing' the kill.  The travel distance will give you a little bump, you will be heading for Helm's Deep, the main settlement of the Westfold.  It took two full days from Helm's Deep to Isenguard in the books.  According to one map I have it is more than 300 miles from where you are to any civilization, though there are people in this region (Dunland) who live in villages and farming communities, but they are low-level hostile to Rohan and Gondor.  I could not find a good reference for daily travel in MERP, D&D5 says 24 miles per day at a normal pace.  At that pace it is 12.5 days to Helm's Deep.  You can erach the borders of Rohan in 10 days and leave him in a village if you prefer and that would put you guys in the Gap of Rohan within sight of the Wizard's Vale.

That would be 240 experience points to the Gap of Rohan, 300 to Helm's Deep.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 106 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Sat 4 May 2024
at 06:16
  • msg #419

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Suspect that the Gap of Rohan has some interesting tales
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 189 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 4 May 2024
at 07:10
  • msg #420

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Ok, the Gap is fine here
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 192 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sun 5 May 2024
at 11:20
  • msg #421

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

You've probably found them alreay but if not, these might help with distances:

https://www.beckyburkheartdotcom/traveltimesinmiddleearth

http://lotrprojectdotcom/map
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 193 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sun 5 May 2024
at 12:43
  • msg #422

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 418):

I recall that you said eslewhere here that you'd divide kill points among those PCs involved. Sounds good to me.
This message was last edited by the player at 13:06, Sun 05 May.
Incanus
GM, 186 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 9 May 2024
at 11:23
  • msg #423

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

You are free to continue the conversation in Meeting at the Ford before departing.  If you are not taking Galen's body I can edit that first post, but in that case please decide what you are doing with him.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 108 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Thu 9 May 2024
at 12:18
  • msg #424

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I reckon we should take it, but unsure if we know any means or preserving it for travel?
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 194 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Thu 9 May 2024
at 13:49
  • msg #425

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

We take it unless it's not the done thing. (While the PCs will probably know what is "usual/normal"; I don't.)

***
Edit: Very nice first post in the "Road Forwards"!
Just checking, Rûniel is an elf, correct?
If so, and IIRC, there are several types of elves: so would we recognise which type she may be?
This message was last edited by the player at 13:52, Thu 09 May.
Bosco Hedgehopper
Hobbit Scout, 91 posts
NA (25/50), 35/35 Hits
Thu 9 May 2024
at 15:48
  • msg #426

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

As you say, the PCs would know what is correct custom for their people.

Galen was an elf.  There's a lot of possible things we could do:
- Bury him locally with proper honour and prayers  (but we may have concerns leaving his body in these unsafe lands)
- Bury him at sea by sending him on a raft on the river that is nearby (it might be a more correct custom for elves?)
- bring him with us to leave his body at a better place later (not sure where or why?)
Incanus
GM, 187 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 10 May 2024
at 14:15
  • msg #427

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elves are creatures of Arda.  When they are slain their spirit (fea) goes to Valinor, the Halls of Mandor.  There the avalar could give them a new body and return them to middle earth, as was done for Glorfindel.  So in that respect, the body is no longer important.  For those left behind (family and friends) some sort of ceremony is done and the body is returned to middle earth, either buried, or sent to the sea as Bosco suggested.

Elly is half elf and therefore knows more about the various elf lineages than the others.  Based on everything she said, Rûniel is an Avari from the far East, beyond the Sea of Rhun.  Her closest cousins in this part of middle earth would be the sylvan elves of Mirkwood, but their lineages diverged thousands of years ago.  The Avari are those who refused the call of the Valar and never took the great journey.  One theory on the origins of orcs is that Morgoth captured some of them and twisted the into orcs.  Another theory is he did that with early Men instead.  Morgoth could not create life, only test and corrupt things already made.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 195 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 10 May 2024
at 14:30
  • msg #428

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

How far are we from the sea at any point in our journey to Helm's Deep?

And roughly how farare we from where Galen's family live?
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 91 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Fri 10 May 2024
at 14:32
  • msg #429

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

My guess is we're far from both.

If Galem was from Lorien, then we had to cross the Misty Mountains to reach it, and the sea is quite far west...
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 196 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 10 May 2024
at 16:10
  • msg #430

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 429):

TY! Things Elly would know I simply do not. That's a really huge help!

My thoughts: Galen is too far from the sea for burial there and too far to be repatraited in Lorien.
However, we didn't want orcs to dig him up and eat him so we've taken his remains to Helm's Deep where his grave will be less prone to interference.
(Also means Incanus doesn't have to edit msg #1 in The Road Forward).
How's the above sound?
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 92 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Fri 10 May 2024
at 16:50
  • msg #431

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In ROhan (no need to reach Helm's Deep, as it wil ltake some days more and we cannot preserve the Corpse) I guess Berthold can make sure Galen receives a proper funeral.

After all, he died helping two Rohirrim to rescue their comrades, and that's a debt of honor....
Incanus
GM, 189 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 11 May 2024
at 01:57
  • msg #432

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Check out the map I just put in the maps and Images thread.

Galen was indeed from Lorien, which you can see North of Rohan and West of Rhovanion.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 109 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Sat 11 May 2024
at 15:41
  • msg #433

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Perhaps burial where he fell, or some hand-waving on why we've not simply headed east to Lorien?
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 197 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 11 May 2024
at 15:56
  • msg #434

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Kharrum Stonesinger (msg # 433):

We also needed to return the uncoscious fellow for care/long term recovery hence us going to the Gap.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 110 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Sat 11 May 2024
at 16:03
  • msg #435

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Good point! Insufficient caffeine here
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 198 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 11 May 2024
at 16:32
  • msg #436

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Ha!
Incanus
GM, 190 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sun 12 May 2024
at 00:48
  • msg #437

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In any case, crossing over the mountains is not hand-waved away.  Due East from you were means going through the Gap to keep going east, or along the south of the White Mountains to Minas Tirith.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 111 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Sun 12 May 2024
at 06:45
  • msg #438

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

No, I meant originally- head east from where we were straight to Lorien rather than south to the Gap. But Elly re-caffeinated my thinking. Aiming to post IC today
Incanus
GM, 191 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sun 12 May 2024
at 06:55
  • msg #439

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yeah, that still would have meant crossing over the Misty Mountains (using the Redhorn Pass) or under them (going through Moria), or going around them, as you did.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 199 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Tue 14 May 2024
at 22:08
  • msg #440

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Do we need to transfer to "The Road Forward (IC-02)" ?
Incanus
GM, 193 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 14 May 2024
at 23:14
  • msg #441

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Yes, that is the new IC thread.  I left the other open so as to not cut off any conversations mid way.

We are now firmly into a more sandbox setup.  You guys need to work out, here OOC and also IC, where you want to go.  I’ll throw hooks and such and if you pick them up, fine.  If you don’t that’s fine also, and you keep moving on.
Incanus
GM, 194 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Tue 21 May 2024
at 00:42
  • msg #442

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Two new players to the group, please welcome them!
Melethron
Mage, 1 post
Silvan Elf
Scholar
Tue 21 May 2024
at 01:05
  • msg #443

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hey gang!

Melethron is a Silvan Elf Mage, twin brother of Melethril.

Melethril and I are new to MERP but have been Roleplaying for 38 years and will pick it up as we go along.
Melethril
Animist, 1 post
Tue 21 May 2024
at 01:06
  • msg #444

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

And Melethril is a Silvan Elf Animist.  They both gravitated to magic, even if in different directions.
This message was last edited by the player at 01:07, Tue 21 May.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 200 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Tue 21 May 2024
at 03:24
  • msg #445

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hello both!
Welcome?!  :)
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 113 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Tue 21 May 2024
at 05:01
  • msg #446

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Welcome twins!
Melethron
Mage, 2 posts
Silvan Elf
Tue 21 May 2024
at 22:14
  • msg #447

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Where in the Gap is the main party currently?
Melethron
Mage, 3 posts
NA (+15), Hits: 11/11
Silvan Elf
Wed 22 May 2024
at 18:58
  • msg #448

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Melethron (msg # 447):

I'm guessing by the description in the current thread that they must be close to the Fords of Isen.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 201 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Wed 22 May 2024
at 21:37
  • msg #449

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I'd propose it's in a location suitable for the story and from which the brave adventuers can set out (and personally not worry too much beyond that).
Melethron
Mage, 4 posts
NA (+15), Hits: 11/11
Silvan Elf
Wed 22 May 2024
at 22:24
  • msg #450

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Hey Elly Shae,

Thanks for that.  I understand where you are coming from but we're not all the same.  I, as I'm sure we all do, appreciate the painstaking efforts Tolkien took to create such a vast and vibrant world, from creating complex languages, to the many different cultures, mythologies and histories, as well as to the amazingly detailed Geography of a world spanning many changes throughout three ages... So for me, to just hand wave stuff like 'where in Middle earth are we is to not fully appreciate all the effort Tolkien poured into this grand world... Asking for a general idea of where in Rohan the party is seems a reasonable question to me, if for anything but my own sheer curiosity.

From a character level, Melethron is also interested, as he and Melethril still need to get to where the party is.  Although, we haven't discussed with the GM yet how the Elves will meet up with you all... whether they will start a seperate thread and make their way there or if we will start our journey as we reach you.  If the later, then a general idea of the area probably isn't as necessary.
This message was last edited by the player at 22:26, Wed 22 May.
Incanus
GM, 195 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 22 May 2024
at 23:22
  • msg #451

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Melethron, please don’t misunderstand Elly’s response as a disregard for Tolkien’s world building.  The precise location down to a specific named village is not important right now nor determined.  They just arrived in the Gap of Rohan, a well-defined location at the intersection of the Misty and White Mountains, with the Wizard’s Vale and Isenguard to the immediate North.  They will decide which way to go next and I will introduce you and Melethril in their path.
Melethron
Mage, 5 posts
NA (+15), Hits: 11/11
Silvan Elf of Lothlorien
Wed 22 May 2024
at 23:37
  • msg #452

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I didn't mean it to come off that way... as it is I was looking at a map that didn't label the Gap of Rohan on it and I thought it covered more area... Looking at a different map now, that is labeled, it's pretty evident where they are generally.
Incanus
GM, 196 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 22 May 2024
at 23:42
  • msg #453

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Cool, yes.  No worries.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 94 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Thu 23 May 2024
at 12:51
  • msg #454

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Well, I thought we'll stop at the first Rohirrim village to ask for help with the wounded warrior, as this was our first goal...
Incanus
GM, 197 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Thu 23 May 2024
at 13:13
  • msg #455

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

If that is still the goal I will update tomorrow; late already.
Melethril
Animist, 3 posts
Silvan Elf Shaman
Fri 24 May 2024
at 22:08
  • msg #456

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

I believe Melethril's character sheet is finished!
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 202 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Fri 24 May 2024
at 22:13
  • msg #457

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 454):

We were to deposit the poor fellow somewhere sensible and safe. Flexible here as to exactly where.
Incanus
GM, 198 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 24 May 2024
at 23:29
  • msg #458

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Okay, I can montage that away.  Einar will stay with him so that we are down to PCs and Rhuniel.
Incanus
GM, 199 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Fri 24 May 2024
at 23:40
  • msg #459

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

For Elly, Kharrum, Bosco and Berthold:

Let's tally up experience points.  The two goblins outside the cave you guys killed first were 200 each (to be split among you) and the six goblins that you fought inside the cave were 300 each (again, to be split among you).  Travel to the Gap of Rohan is 240 xp to each of you.  Every Hit of damage you received individually is 1 xp.  For the Criticals, you get experience for both dealing and for receiving.  They are valued in increments of 15, so an A crit is worth 15, B is 30, C is 45, etc.  These values are based on relative levels between you and the goblins.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 114 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 07:24
  • msg #460

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 459):

Rough calculations has Kharrum on 1189 xp so far; only 8200 to level two!
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 95 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 07:59
  • msg #461

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Incanus:
For Elly, Kharrum, Bosco and Berthold:

Every Hit of damage you received individually is 1 xp.  For the Criticals, you get experience for both dealing and for receiving.  They are valued in increments of 15, so an A crit is worth 15, B is 30, C is 45, etc.  These values are based on relative levels between you and the goblins.


Some questions here (numbered to ease answers):

  1. so total kill points are 2200 XP to divide among 7 (IIRC taht's the number of characters entering the cave). Is this right?
  2. for hits, are those received or produced on enemies? and if the former, those due to bleeding (hits/round) are also counted?
  3. in MERP rules, criticals received are worth quite more (the "to self" line in the table in page 17)

This message was last edited by the player at 08:16, Sat 25 May.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 203 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 08:08
  • msg #462

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 461):

My previous MERP GM said NPCs get half xp (but IDK how he worked it out).

Anyway, the kill points (2200) are either:
a) 550 if split 4 ways, or
b) 314 if split 7 ways, or
c) or 400 (for PCs) if split 5.5 ways (PCs 1 share, NPCs half share).

As ever, I'm happy to number crunch but GM is the arbiter.
This message was last edited by the player at 08:13, Sat 25 May.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 96 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 08:13
  • msg #463

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

So Berthold has 673 xp plus the ones for criticals on himself (one B, once C).

If those criticals are also worth 15(level, that means a total of 748. If as the table in page 17, 1173
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 204 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 08:17
  • msg #464

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 463):

There are also Ideas Points which IIRC are equal to the sum of the other points and then split proportionately amomngst the ideas generated.
I noted one idea fro Bertholh: "Berthold's idea of dedicating himnself to the return of (I think) Galen's items to his family."
(He may well have had had other ideas that I didn't note down)
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 115 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 08:17
  • msg #465

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Elly Shae (msg # 462):

I had presumed a) but happy to be corrected
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 97 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 08:18
  • msg #466

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly Shae:
In reply to Berthold (msg # 461):

My previous MERP GM said NPCs get half xp (but IDK how he worked it out).

Anyway, the kill points (2200) are either:
a) 550 if split 4 ways, or
b) 314 if split 7 ways, or
c) or 400 (for PCs) if split 5.5 ways (PCs 1 share, NPCs half share).

As ever, I'm happy to number crunch but GM is the arbiter.

We were 7 (IIRC) when we entered the cave, and all of us were PCs at that moment...
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 205 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 08:19
  • msg #467

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Kharrum Stonesinger (msg # 465):

Well it's 10k xp incremental to L2 so that would be welcome certainly in view of the difficulty/speed of the forum medium (versus round the table)
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 206 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 08:20
  • msg #468

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 466):

Yes, but the XP is being awarded now.. so GM could rule either way as he sees fit
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 207 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 08:22
  • msg #469

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Elly Shae (msg # 464):

FOlks, you might want to have a think about Ideas that you had..
Incanus
GM, 200 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 11:22
  • msg #470

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Elly is right, there is a substantial difference for criticals received.  Those start at 100 xp for an A and increase in 100 xp increments up to 500 xp for receiving an E critical.

As for how to divide the kill points, I will be generous and divide among the PCs who remain, think of it as a bonus for sticking with the game this far.  I would give Galen a share if he had stayed and made a new character.  That means 550 split four ways ( Elly, Kharrum, Bosco and Berthold).

If I'm doing the math right, the base xp for you guys would be 550 kill points + 240 travel points = 790.  Add to that xp from hits lost and criticals.

And yes, hits suffered from bleeding counts as xp.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 208 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 11:37
  • msg #471

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

TY!
Every xp helps  :)
This message was last edited by the player at 11:43, Sat 25 May.
Berthold
Rohirric Warrior, 98 posts
Chain (55 DB) 35/35 hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 12:16
  • msg #472

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

As for hits, are the hits delivered, the ones received or both that give XPs?

  • If only delivered, Berthold has 1409 XPs
  • If only received, Berthold has 1414 XPs
  • If both, Berthold has 1458 XPs

This message was last edited by the player at 13:24, Sat 25 May.
Kharrum Stonesinger
Dwarf Ranger, 116 posts
RL (20/45),34/50 Hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 12:56
  • msg #473

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Receiving a D helped, recalc suggest 1598 plus anything for ideas. Kharrum had two or three regards approaching the cave, pretending to be an orc, etc
Incanus
GM, 201 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 13:09
  • msg #474

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Berthold (msg # 472):

Only hits received, so the second option.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 209 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Sat 25 May 2024
at 13:14
  • msg #475

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Kharrum Stonesinger (msg # 473):

Despite landing 9 crits of the orcs Elly is a bit behind on 1,221xp.

Could really bnefit from some Ideas xp.
(Apparently the ottal xp for ideas equals half the total of all the xp for hits, crits, kills, maneuvre & spells. It excludes travel).

++++++++++++++++
Edit:
Looking at Bosco's xp tracker, he's got 550xp(kills) +135xp(crits) +240xp(travel) =925xp(total)

Assuming that's correct (and so are the rest of us) then stripping out travel xp gives:
Kharrum 1598xp -240xp(travel) =1358xp
Berthold 1414xp -240xp(travel) =1174xp
Elly 1221xp -240xp(travel) =981xp
Bosco 925xp -240xp(travel) =685xp

..which total to: 4198xp of which half: 2099xp is for awarding as Ideas xp.
This message was last edited by the player at 14:20, Sat 25 May.
Melethron
Mage, 7 posts
NA (+15), Hits: 11/11
Silvan Elf of Lothlorien
Mon 27 May 2024
at 13:58
  • msg #476

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

looking forward to getting into the action with you guys!
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 210 posts
Wed 29 May 2024
at 04:03
  • [deleted]
  • msg #477

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

This message was deleted by the player at 04:05, Wed 29 May.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 211 posts
Wed 29 May 2024
at 04:03
  • [deleted]
  • msg #478

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

This message was deleted by the player at 04:06, Wed 29 May.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 212 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Wed 29 May 2024
at 04:03
  • msg #479

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

Do we have anything to sell (or trade)?
Even the orc weapons may be worth the price of some meals as metal can be remelted and doesn't have to be extracted from ore..

Also, is there a bounty on orcs?
Incanus
GM, 203 posts
Armor (DB), XX/XX hits
Wed 29 May 2024
at 04:23
  • msg #480

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

No bounty, but yes, you could trade them some of the weapons to be melted for their metal.
Elly Shae
Half-Elf Ranger, 213 posts
Plate (25/50), 28/28 Hits
Wed 29 May 2024
at 07:58
  • msg #481

Re: The Green Dragon Inn (OOC)

In reply to Incanus (msg # 480):

TY!

***
Folks, I'm going to assume we're all ok with it and post that we try and do that (swop orc weapons for food for our journey).
If anyone objects please shout out,
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