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Portrait Submissions.

Posted by Shannara
Xenoviel
subscriber, 32 posts
Wed 3 Jun 2020
at 00:26
  • msg #327

Re: Portrait Submissions

Done!
Morgan Coldsoul
member, 309 posts
29+ years RP experience
I'll forget again later
Wed 3 Jun 2020
at 00:33
  • msg #328

Re: Portrait Submissions

Alright, yeah; it made it through this time, but it's the first time I remember seeing it. Unfortunately, that probably means it bounced somewhere in the forwarding settings. We'll try to look into that, but for now, I've got the portrait you described with your username, etc., all attached. (b^^)b
Warrax
subscriber, 269 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 13:51
  • msg #329

Re: Portrait Submissions

Portraits uploaded for this period.

10 Male.  Warrior, 20th Century, Business, Casual (2), Gangster and Rugged (2).

5 Female. Demihuman, Spell-caster and Business (3).

6 Neutral. Monster, Demihuman (2), 17th Century and Casual (2).


Cheers, folks!
SunRuanEr
subscriber, 281 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 14:29
  • msg #330

Re: Portrait Submissions

Thank you, kind sir!
Warrax
subscriber, 270 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 14:38
  • msg #331

Re: Portrait Submissions

Hope everyone enjoys.  We're getting a pretty solid base of two dozen to thirty portraits a month, which is nice.  Selection has been great lately as well.  Nice variety.
Mahatatain
member, 243 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 14:46
  • msg #332

Re: Portrait Submissions

In reply to Warrax (msg # 329):

Thank you and the team's work on this.

There have certainly been some good portraits recently.
Flarelord
member, 429 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 15:17
  • msg #333

Re: Portrait Submissions

Indeed. I am surprised mine ended up in neutral and not female demihuman.
tibiotarsus
member, 172 posts
Hopepunk with a shovel
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 15:28
  • msg #334

Re: Portrait Submissions

Thirded. I love the last Neutral 17th Century addition. Thanks, whoever added that!
Warrax
subscriber, 271 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 15:39
  • msg #335

Re: Portrait Submissions

Plague mask FTW. :D
Locke1221
subscriber, 46 posts
Fri 19 Jun 2020
at 20:31
  • msg #336

Re: Portrait Submissions

Really appreciate it guys!
sellanraa
member, 1 post
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 13:45
  • msg #337

Re: Portrait Submissions

Been about a month since the last update.  Waiting to join a game until my little Private Joker/Modine pic is approved.  Fingers crossed it's soon.  Woot! :)
SunRuanEr
subscriber, 293 posts
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 16:57
  • msg #338

Re: Portrait Submissions

Updates should be up sometime in the next two weeks. Last month's update was earlier in the month than normal. The deadline for this month's submissions was actually just three days ago - give them time!
Warrax
subscriber, 272 posts
Sat 18 Jul 2020
at 22:31
  • msg #339

Re: Portrait Submissions

They're coming. Will be up this week some time.  I'm teaching this weekend but start looking Monday evening.
Warrax
subscriber, 273 posts
Tue 21 Jul 2020
at 14:38
  • msg #340

Re: Portrait Submissions

Updates in.

5 female (Human, Business, Casual, Rugged and Spell-caster)
4 Neutral (Demihuman, Alien, 2x Monster)
8 Male (17th Century, 20th Century, Business, 2x Demihuman, 3x Casual)
SunRuanEr
subscriber, 294 posts
Tue 21 Jul 2020
at 14:46
  • msg #341

Re: Portrait Submissions

Woot. Thank you, sir!
Warrax
subscriber, 274 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 19:13
  • msg #342

Re: Portrait Submissions

Glad everyone's enjoying.

Quick reminder:  Just because you suggest a category for a given portrait doesn't mean it is guaranteed to end up in that category. If you think your portrait got missed, absolutely drop one of us a line (probably me, since I'm responsible for uploading and it'll give Morgan some peace!) and ask.  If it never made the uploads, it's probably you forgot your RPOL screen name or some such and we'll look into it.  If it got moved to a different category, I'll happily tell you where it ended up so you can begin using it!

Cheers.
Jarodemo
member, 854 posts
My hovercraft
is full of eels
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 19:24
  • msg #343

Re: Portrait Submissions

Thanks, mine is in and now in use!
Dream Sequence
member, 61 posts
Certainly the loveliest,
most civilized of us all
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 19:46
  • msg #344

Re: Portrait Submissions

In reply to Warrax (msg # 342):

Just a curious question:  Why would it be decided to put a portrait in a different gallery than the one suggested by the person who submitted it?  The categories are pretty arbitrary, I can usually barely detect a difference between Casual, Business, and Rugged, and have to search through all three to find "that one portrait I remember."
This message was last edited by the user at 20:33, Wed 22 July 2020.
Morgan Coldsoul
member, 310 posts
29+ years RP experience
I'll forget again later
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 20:11
  • msg #345

Re: Portrait Submissions

In reply to Dream Sequence (msg # 344):

tl;dr: Usually it's just a rare and minor case of "they want this in female X but this person is nonbinary/male/etc." or similar, and once in a while it's an executive call to put it in a category where it might see broader use.

Longer explanation: The former is just general respect for the character or, in the case of real people, for the person. The latter is typically a case of someone submitting a monster or nonhuman creature of some kind; because they picked out the image for a character who already has an identity in their head, they're thinking of the image itself as male/female/etc., when actually it has no particular characteristics that pin it firmly to that category because it isn't a human being and doesn't play by our rules of appearance or physicality or whatever.

So, a lizard person or a dragonborn or an anthropomorphic animal might be placed in neutral to help indicate for users browsing the gallery that we feel that avatar is suitable for characters of any gender expression. Most people who go to the gallery looking for a portrait already have something in mind and can make that decision for themselves without help, but sometimes you have folks who might be on the fence, and seeing a portrait in a particular category can be what cements the decision for them to use it.

In either case, we get relatively few of these because most people who submit images to the gallery don't actually specify where they want it, to begin with, and just leave it up to us. Thus, the percentage of pics that end up somewhere else when someone does make an explicit request is vanishingly small. Nonetheless, because it does happen, as a courtesy we recommend that users check every gallery that's been updated after a cycle in order to find their submission, since we can't say we guarantee it will go where you ask.
Warrax
subscriber, 275 posts
Wed 22 Jul 2020
at 20:31
  • msg #346

Re: Portrait Submissions

So the male/neutral/female thing is usually pretty straightforward. It's very rarely something we change after submission. It's more the specific category inside of the broader category where it gets fuzzy, and to be honest? There hasn't been a lot of integrity to some of the categories for a while now and we're trying to change that so the categories are a little bit more descriptive of what you'll find with in.

Other than that, what Morgan said.
bigdaddyG
member, 37 posts
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 13:44
  • msg #347

Re: Portrait Submissions

For Gender ones questions? What if we see a portrait that is clearly in wrong gender. Should we let you know? Asking cause know of at least one
Morgan Coldsoul
member, 311 posts
29+ years RP experience
I'll forget again later
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 14:05
  • msg #348

Re: Portrait Submissions

Sure; if you see any mistakes in the galleries, at all, you're free to tell us and we can make a note.
ladysharlyne
subscriber, 2774 posts
You get out of a game the
effort you put in it !!
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 14:23
  • msg #349

Re: Portrait Submissions

Question if changes are made won't that throw what players might be using as a pic out of sync? You have one person's face one day and wake up to find it is a different person the next day as pics have been shifted?
Morgan Coldsoul
member, 312 posts
29+ years RP experience
I'll forget again later
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 14:32
  • msg #350

Re: Portrait Submissions

I don't think we can tell how many characters are using a specific portrait, sadly, which means we can't know for sure how many people would potentially be affected. However, we already technically do this when we delete duplicates and replace them with a new upload, because that also affects anyone using that particular portrait.

Fortunately (in this case), it's a slow process that doesn't happen often, so we could just make an announcement, maybe, along with the regular gallery update.
SunRuanEr
subscriber, 320 posts
Thu 27 Aug 2020
at 15:22
  • msg #351

Re: Portrait Submissions

I don't really understand how this works, obviously, but hypothetically speaking...

If you changed a portrait's categorization (NOT deleting it), from say 'fmg123' to 'mmg123', wouldn't that just change the image that people are using from one label to the other, without removing the image?

I understand that when you delete and replace an image, that changes it - if you go to bed with fmg123 being a blonde lady, and wake up to fmg123 being a brunette because the previous image in the 'slot' has been removed and replaced with another one, but it seems to reason (to my non-technical mind at least) that changing the 'slot' shouldn't bork people's portraits - it should just change the numeric designator for the image they're using, resulting in going to bed with a blonde labeled fmg123 and waking up to the same blonde labeled fmc789.

Deleting and replacing images doesn't feel good to me, though, unless you could tell that absolutely no one was using an image. Even in the case of duplicates, because someone is probably using that duplicate if just because that's the first version of the portrait they came across - and sometimes what looks like an exact duplicate isn't -quite- the same. The lighting might be better, or it might be a smidge higher resolution. Unless the image is 100% identical, like someone accidentally submitted the exact same portrait twice, I feel like we should probably let them stay. (And definitely announce when it's been done, if it happens, down to providing the numbers for the removed image so that people know there's an out-of-order new image to check out, and the numbers for the duplicate that stayed, so that people that lost their portrait know where to find the other one without having to go hunting.)

Same goes for re-ordering what looks like wrong gender applications. Yeah, there are several female portraits in the males, and several males in the females, but those ones are pretty ambiguous and only obvious if you know exactly who the subject in the portrait is, and in some cases trying to re-order them would lead you down the slippery slope of defining someone's gender identity. That feels like a sleeping dog that's probably best left to lie.
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