If you want to that is fine. I have a spread sheet that automates most of the mecha design. It's more of a "what is actually reasonable" and "what actually works well" that I'm uncertain on and need to cross check.

In reply to Boris Bluestar (msg # 101):

Sure!  I'll cook something up real quick...

Ok.  Grrr... this is crude... but destructive....
My issue with this design is how ponderously clumbsy it is... at 60+ tons your Mecha Reflex is penalized a nasty -6... and in the faster Jet mode its a -8!  I suppose it can work... but I'd not prefer such a penalty personally.  I  built the heaviest arms I could; you do NOT want to get into melee with this monster... you will pound the hell out of most mecha in physical melee [+2k on all melee damage with physical weapons 'ouch']!  The weapons are straight out of the Mekton Z core... I only modified the Medium Cannons with a range cost boost... so can fire artillery shells a 10 hex / 1/2 Kilometer range.  Your two 'Artillery' Mass-Drivers are linked so when you hit you'll inflict 12kills of damage to some poor SoB!  I sacrificed kills of durability for the Medium Cannons to get more space int he torso for them ~ but I'd hardly call 4 kills of 'sv' {Structural Value} 'Kills' "fragile".

My original design had a Beam Rifle as well cause I wanted an unlimited shots weapon unlike your limited ammo for the Medium 'Artillery' Cannon-Mass Drivers, but the cost was just too far over [165+CP] ... even this version is 3 CP over!

Here is the beam Rifle I wanted to add... but for cost overuns...

[9CP / 9K] Heavy Beam Gun = DM: 6k / Ra: 10hx <9cp>, WAcc: +1 <x1>, Sh: Inf <x1>; sv: 6K, 2hh- ‘8’sp; se: +1sp> {4.5t}

But I guess this will do for a temp thing... if we could eventually add some maneuvering verniers to lower that MV penalty some...

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Czernobog RS-MK II “Hammer & Sickle” – [ 154CP ] – 56.5tons {dry} / ’62.15’  tons w/Fuel; MV {-6/-8tr}: -6/-8tr, MA: 4gr/ 10 {20tr}fly

Servos -            Armor –          Spaces -
H  - MS {4}          MS {4}              1MSnr
MB/T – MW {12}   LH {7}              [1 Cockpit-Screen] 4sp-2MC, 3-th
LA – LH {8}          MS {4}              [Mel: +2k, Th: 6hx] 5sp-Mc ‘H’
RA – LH {8}          MS {4}              [Mel: +2k, Th: 6hx] 5sp-Sw
LL – HS {5}          HS {5}              [Mel: +1k] 5-th
RL -  HS {5}         HS {5}              [Mel: +1k] 5-th
Pd – St ‘3’            St {3}              {0 ton-Servo} [+6sp] 6-th
LWg – MS {4}        Sl {1}               [+2MA fly]
RWg – MS {4}       Sl {1}               [ - fly]
LHd {2} [1k+2k]        Handy, Quick     - hold [8]
RHd {2} [1k+2k]        Handy, Quick     - hold [8]
[57CP ’28.5t’] [34CP ’17t’]

Hydraulics-Standard = lift x1
<x0.0> Cockpit Controls – Screen [T – 1sp]
<x0.05> Environmental Protection-Space
<-x0.25> Powerplant-Power Cell = Standard Charge, 6-24hrs ‘Hot’
<x0.3> Transformation – Astrofighter = -2MV, 2x MA, Min 4hx
x0.1

[4CP / 2K] {MSnr} Main Sensors = Sensors 7km, Comm 1,000km, 2K [H – 1sp]; {1t}

Weapons -
[4CP / 6K] Rocket~”Hammer” Mace = DM: 8k+2k, WAcc: +0, Use: Inf; sv: 6K, LA-4sp; {3t}
[5CP / 6K] Chainsaw~”Sickle” Saw = DM: 6k+2k AP, WAcc: -1, Use: Inf; sv: 6K, RA-5sp; {3t}
[‘15’ 7.5CP ea/ ‘8’ 4K ea] 2x Medium ‘Artillery’ Cannon-Mass Drivers = DM: 6k <6cp> / Ra: ‘10’hx [+150%] <x1.25cp>, WAcc: +0 <x1>, Sh: 10ea; sv: ‘4’K [-2K ea / +4sp ea ‘+8sp’], T – ‘4’ 2sp {‘4’ 2t}
[2CP] + Weapon Link

[18.645CP] Thrusters = lift {2.3306} 8 MA ’18.645cp’ [T – 3sp, L/RL – 5sp ea, Pd – 6sp]
‘139.645’

<< [ 153.6095CP ] {"62.15" w/fuel, '56.5’ tons} >>
This message was last edited by the player at 00:24, Tue 23 Apr.

My apologies!

Some unexpected family stuff came up and my finishing Zeke's stats got delayed. I'll have those shortly. One question, is there a Text character sheet or do I just lay him out as appropriate? :)

In reply to Zephrim Cephras (msg # 104):

Not as far as I've seen or the GM has posted.  Make something that organizes your abilities for easy referece for YOU ~ I guess?  Its what I did.

So Zephrim... what's YOUR mecha design philosophy?

I thought the form sheet I found was too complicated and as I restructured characters a bit it wouldn’t really have worked anyway.  The important thing is that everything is there and it is e say to read.

Just a reminder... all the MEKTONs I've designed here for this game are listed at the bottom of my Description in my profile... at least might grant some ideas... or free for anyone to use as long as they fit the 150cp limit!  Enjoy!

SWEET!!! Love your mecha designs GM!!! New ideas for me... never thought of putting thrusters in a tail servo... but its SOOOO Obvious lol!

Love the "Star Falcons"... just cuious... how many CP were they?

Plus the B5 'Starfury' style non-transformable starfighters are sweet...great idea!!!

Can't wait to Get It ON!!!
This message was last edited by the player at 11:58, Fri 26 Apr.

Thank you.

I didn't keep careful notes on the cp as I was more interested in the configuration.  The ballpark figures are 205 cp for the interceptor (the metaform wings really increases the cost multipliers) the attack unit is around 195 cp (transformation costs).  Both come in just under 40 tons, used maneuver verniers to get the interceptor down to MV -3.  Didn't want to spend the points for that on the transformer as it is more of a multi-role fighter, so master of none, plus most of the time production models tend to be not that expensive (5th gen fighters not withstanding).

They both use the +5 cp slave mecha controls with a human-scale power armor as the master mecha, which I just posted.  So if you are wearing the power armor it connects in the pilot space of the larger mecha and becomes a VR control suite.  When you eject you do so in the power armor, giving you a better chance of survival.  After scaling, the power armor is only about 18 cp.

As soon as I get the points... THIS is a upgrade I'm wanting to add to the Starknight - Orion1

Here is the Starknight done up in YOUR Format Referee!

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Federated Alliance 'Salvaged' Mecha {Custom} ~ Starknight - Orion

Transformable Humanoid/Fighter Mecha 39.6 tons w/fuel, 36tons dry
{Mekton} {Astrofighter}
- Styling: Metallic Blue, with Gold & White Paneling

Humanoid Mode:
 - MV -3, Land MA 5, Flight MA 15
Fighter Mode:
 - MV -5, Land MA 0, Flight MA 30

Servo locations: Torso SP 4/ DC 4 Beta class armor, Head SP 3, Arms SP 4, Legs SP 5, Pod SP 3, Wings SP 1

Head/Avionics Turret
3 K [Backup Sensors, Escape Pod, Style & Decor]
Torso/Main Hull
8 K [Pilot 'Cockpit-VR'; Main Sensors, Damage Control Package, Hot Power Cell-Standard Charge, Energy Pool, Thrusters 3]
Right Arm
4 K [Shield Mount, Hand]
Left Arm
4 K [Shield Mount, Hand]
Right Leg/Engine
5 K [Thrusters 5]
Left Leg/Engine
5 K [Thrusters 5]
Pod Engine
0 K [Energy Pool 2, Thrusters 2, Gravitics 2]
Left Wing
2 K [Thrusters 1, Gravitics 1]
Left Wing
2 K [Thrusters 1, Gravitics 1]

Main Sensors
        7 km range, 1,000 km communications range
Back-Up Sensors
        1 km range, 300 km communications range
Anti-Theft Lock;  Damage Control Package {suitable to search and rescue operations};  Escape Pod;  Liftwire;  Style & Decor Enhancement {+3Cool}

Armed with Energy Pool-Mutli Configuration Weapon, hand held in humanoid form - 5kills Destroys both configuration at once
1. Mega Beam Cannon (WA +1, Range: 10 hex, Damage 6K, Shots: Infinite)
2. Hyper-Plasma Beam Saber (WA +1, Range: Melee, Damage 10K [-4 SP], Use/Turns: Infinite)
- Mounted on Center Underbody External Weapon Mount in fighter form fixed foward
Armed with {R.A.M.} Radiation Absorbing Material Shield mounted on either arm (DA -2, AbC 1/4en, SP 4 <DC 4 - Beta>)
- Mounted on underbody in fighter mode
Equipped with Space environmental protection 'Technically with Gravitics can renter with RAM Shield underbody, but tricky and risky'

NOTES: I actually miscalculated my CP costs.  The Starknight is supposed to have Beta Grade Armor on its shield and it supposed to have a single weapons mount to mount its Energy Pool weapon on the undercarriage in Astrojet/fighter mode...
That would make the Starknight cost 158CP, without those two components  its 149.4567CP which is why those components are 'Greyed' out... maybe the GM will be nice and let me keep them?  If not the Energy Pool weapon is not usable in jet mode as it is a 1handed-held weapon.
This message was last edited by the player at 17:44, Fri 26 Apr.

I moved it to the Mecha and Vehicles thread with slight formatting changes to make it a bit easier for me to reference.  Thanks.  I like the idea that it needs to transform to use the weapons, it is super fast in fighter mode so definitely an assault-interceptor, or rapid-response role.

Once mecha or vehicles are finalized I'll add them to that thread also.  Of course, save the 'messy' post with the CP numbers for record keeping and so that we can upgrade easier later.

Confirming here:

Gary and Zeke are on the Search & Rescue team.  When needed they will take out one of the Pelican-class shuttles with the appropriate mission module.  Boris and Jherad are mecha jocks on contract with the mercenary company, two of six pilots.  Boris' role is still TBD, Jherad is an interceptor/chaser.  Rulee is a mechanic with the mercs as well, for now Technician In Charge (TIC) for Jherad.  Each mecha has one TIC, and one assistant tech; any that have physical ammunition also have an Armorer that handles the ammo.

Skyrah has gone silent again and I recognize their RL issue is complicated right now.  She is also a merc pilot, her mecha more of a scout.

Let me know if any of this needs correction.

In reply to Referee (msg # 113):

Sounds good!

Works for me. :)

In reply to Referee (msg # 113):

Looks just fine...

In reply to Boris Bluestar (msg # 101):

So Boris you still there?  Any comments, suggestions, out-right hatred; for the Czernobog RS-MK II “Hammer & Sickle”?  You've not posted again since...  again its just a suggestion if you have some idea of what you want I can craft to your specifications...?
This message was lightly edited by the player at 23:33, Mon 29 Apr.

When Mecks launch, does the chamber depressurize or is there some kind of force field?

Yes, it depressurizes.  No force shields, that is why they are not permitted for mecha either.  Even EMWs are not avilable smaller than 1:1 mecha scale (hence power swords not available.)

The skinsuit uniform functions as a space suit with life support.  I think I said earlier each bay holds two mecha, there are four mecha bays.  The mercs only have six mecha, however.

I give up... No One playing a mecha pilot actually WANTS to talk about Mecha. So I'm playing a lone mecha pilot.

'Shrug'

I'll just STOP making mecha designs no one is interested!
This message was last edited by the player at 17:26, Sun 05 May.

Boris withdrew from the game.  Skyrah is still non-responsive and Gary hasn't visited the forum since March 31.  I will bump the advert.

Jherad, I may have missed something but your mech doesn't have either an EW suite or any advanced sensors.  Without a local, native TV tuner or one of those you're not going to pick up anything, even the fact that the signals are out there.  It's all lost in the background noise.  OOC text should be in orange, please.  Not green.

It doesn't look like anyone else is going to post.  Let's see if I can move it along.

In reply to Referee (msg # 122):

Ok, so regular Sensors do not pick up alien radio transmissions...  then I expect alien enemy mecha without enhanced sensors should NOT be able to detect our transmissions either.  Cool.
This message was last edited by the player at 11:57, Wed 15 May.

Alien probably can't pick up your transmissions, right.  Not all enemies are alien.

Sorry for the delay in reply.. will get one out hopefully tonight...